I had a great Crypt label comp some years ago which had the Pagans on it amongst others. If I remember right, it was pretty much sleazy, raw, garage-y raunch all the way through. One of my all time favourites would probably Blacktop's cd on the _In the Red_ label. I think they only ever put one album out, though there was an Australian version on _Au-go-go_ with about six different tracks on it.Out of control greatness! They cover Beefheart on it too.(IIRC). Mick Collins is now in the Dirtbombs. Probably not quite as close in sound, but easily just as great is Billy Childish and the Blackhands disc. I think it was called _at the Bridge_ which contained folk songs and new ones written in that vein. pretty raw sounding recordings with acoustic instruments. the antithesis of new age folk music.Bitter and angry. Out of print now i think. aaron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/