I think the new SY record is pretty good. It is indeed rather song-based but still the SY sound is strongly present, and there is a decent amount of noise also. Especially "Karen revisited" is very very good. For starting on their discography, I would consider going back chronologically a good approach. However, it would take some time for one to get to SISTER and EVOL and that is a pitty! Therefore maybe starting from the new album, NYC ghosts and flowers and then move back to SISTER and EVOL is a good idea! Then there will be time to go through the rest. Not to forget the essential SYR series... Actually I had the chance to see them live last night. Last year I thought was the best of their shows that I had seen, so I was really looking forward to the new appearence. However, it didn't quite live up to my expectations. The set included a great deal of Murray street, which was quite fine with me, but they didnt really take off. Unfortunately, even though MS has been out 2 weeks already, the public had not done its homework. Therefore it remained rather cool and only woke up at the encores... Actually if I was SY I wouldnt come out on stage for an encore. It was strange to see Kim Gordon, a 35+ lady, jumping and dancing and all the kids underneath looking calmly at her... manolis