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Re: Saalfelden
by Vincent Kargatis 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

> From: "Andrew Newcombe" <andynew(a)members.v21.co.uk> > -Mephista (Although I think it would have been just as good as a duo > without Mori), Hm, not me. I especially liked the sonic interaction between Courvoisier's inside piano playing and Ikue's laptop. > -Tim Berne Clownfinger (Sounded a bit like bloodcount with different > instrumentation - still good but I expected something different). Hm, as far as judging relative to Berne's various groupings, I don't hear this. Have you heard SCIENCE FRICTION? Do you think that album sounds like Bloodcount? Do you think this performance sounded more like Bloodcount than thAT album? Dang, still waiting for my review to be approved... -- Vincent Kargatis np: General Magic & Pita - LIVE AND FINAL FRIDGE

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Re: Berne-ing questions
by Vincent Kargatis 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

> >Tim Berne's Clownfinger > Q: This is one of Tim's groups I'm not familiar with. Who's in it? Well, my festival review is in the pipeline, guess the mod's not around atm to approve its length, so here's the Berne excerpt. Short answer is the 'group' is probably just a temporary congregation given a name by Tim, I'd guess - it's the SCIENCE FRICTION band plus Herb Robertson and Scott Colley. 16:30 TIM BERNE "Clownfinger" USA, France Tim Berne: saxophone Herb Robertson: trombone Marc Ducret: guitar Craig Taborn: piano Scott Colley: bass Tom Rainey: drums Basically an augmented SCIENCE FRICTION band/sound. I'm a huge Berne fan, and of course dug this. Berne never coasts, ime. They performed "Huevos", "Sigh Fry", and "Clown Finger" from SF, and an unrecorded comp called "The Shell Game" (which did not appear on the album of the same name from last year). Berne and Robertson recalled their early partnership in a nice high-tension duo on "Huevos", backed by Colley and Rainey. Herb was undermixed, imo, and I couldn't hear him very well, worsened because he spent most of the time doing his fast, small-detail playing, which just got lost. Berne's sound seems to me to be developing like a constantly sharpening knife. Ducret just rocked - you could tell he was making an impression on the audience. Colley sounded really strong too - he's new to this crowd, afaik. "The Shell Game" featured on really nice section where Tim, Herb, Craig, and Marc were all playing these long, subtle tones, with Scott and Tom boiling over the top. Nice. Ime, Tim doesn't like encores, but they did one here, a really high-energy version of another SF track (can't remember which, sorry). > Q: Has anyone got 'The Sevens'? What do you think of it? Does it come in > that flimsy packaging like 'Science Friction'? Standard packaging, on New World Records. An interesting album with some variety - a composed sax quartet piece, two short guitar solos, two David Torn remixes, and an incredible centerpiece for quartet plus Tim and Ducret. Try this link for a bit of discussion on it (paste to one line, of course). http://www.jazzjukebox.com/EmazeForums/program/readForum.cfm?confID=10&forum ID=13749 -- Vincent Kargatis np: Toshimaru Nakamura - NO-INPUT MIXING BOARD 2 (a bruit secret)

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Re: Phil and Hal [was RE: Bill Frisell & film music question]
by Steve Smith 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

God, what a relief! I didn't really admit it at first, but this mental lapse REALLY bothered me, since both of those scores date from a period when I still cared quite a lot about Glass and his music. Which is not to entirely diss Glass, mind you... I still enjoy some of his more recent music, but I've simply seen fewer signs of genuine development since, oh, I don't know, 'Akhnaten'? I think I've already mentioned that the score for the upcoming 'Naqoyqatsi' is a winner, and I do plan to see his new opera 'Gallileo Gallilei' in October. Otherwise, it's Glass's earliest music I tend to return to most. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Eric Stokes, 'Whittlings' - Zeitgeist (New World) On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:21:15 -0700 Joseph Zitt <jzitt(a)metatronpress.com> wrote: Nope, Steve is right again: there was indeed music from Powaqqatsi. http://www.philipglass.com/truman.html lists music from that, Anima Mundi, and Mishima as being in The Truman Show. I broke out laughing when the Powaqqatsi music started, and was amused to see a shot of Glass himself playing in the TV studio.

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nyc turntable question
by Kurt Gottschalk 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

i'm working on booking a really big shoe in november. everything's not set in stone, but it involves bringing a turntablist in from out of state who, as it happens, won't be travelling with turntables. i need help locating 2 or 3 durable turntables. what's a reasonable rental rate and place to go? better yet, if there's anyone who would be willing to loan turntables for the show, you'd receive much gratitude, more info on what i'm working on, get to go to the show, other nice stuff... thanks, kurt _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: New release questions and info
by Kurt Gottschalk 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

>I saw this on the Koch web site. Anyone have any more info? > >YOSHIHIDE, Otomo NEW JAZZ QUIN... Jazz New Jazz Quintet Live 09/24/2002 >Diw >DIW-CD-942 > i don't have much info. i did have an advance cdr, which only played for about 10 minutes. sounded great, tho. i believe it's a fall release. kg np: deano merino "baby crocodiles" _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Bill Frisell & film music question
by Arthur Gadney 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi. >there are many examples of exactly this. But it's usually when the >directory is trying to directly induce a period feel (THE PURPLE ROSE OF >CAIRO for instance). Yes, of course, but can you really think of another movie were they just lifted the theme from another movie, in this case made just a few years earlier? And I'm not talking about just ripping off, like with "Lord of the Rings" but actually reusing ;-) > Lets blame it on Hal Wilner. He seems able to destroy anything he gets his > > hands on. What a shame. > >Willner's pretty brilliant, in my opinion, and in the opinions of just >about >any musicians he's ever worked with. I always figured he must be a realyl nice guy, or something :-) I never heard his solo album, even though I heard it should be great, but his all star projects like the Harry Parch one, and even worse the Disney one always fell like a big waste of time to me. Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Berne-ing questions
by David Evans 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hello chaps, >Tim Berne's Clownfinger Q: This is one of Tim's groups I'm not familiar with. Who's in it? Q: Has anyone got 'The Sevens'? What do you think of it? Does it come in that flimsy packaging like 'Science Friction'? >According to the Screwgun website >Science Friction + Arte Quartet +Torn / UK /November 10-22 Q: Does anyone have any info about this? Cheers Dave "Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work." Thomas Edison. "Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work." Thomas Edison. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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AACMP books/Chicago Mov't
by nors5379 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

i was curious if anybody knew of any books dealing with the AACMP, namely with chicago musicians along the likes of art ensemble. most especially something dealing strongly on the social commentary of the time and the musicians reaction. interviews, testimonials... etc. i am in the pre-stages of putting together a mock touring historical show for part one of my senior graphic design project and was hoping to use this area as a main focus. any websites, books (especially), real photos (willing to give credit where credit is due. NO EXCHANGE OF MONEY WILL TAKE PLACE IN THIS PROJECT, except what ever it may cost me to get stuff printed that cant be printed here at school). any help would be gladly appreciated! -darryl norsen

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Live Painkiller
by JSub＠aol.com 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Saw this listed on the upcoming/future releases section of Bentcrayons weekly list. Tower lists a 10/22 release date. PAINKILLER/LIVE IN NAGOYA: Talisman CD (TZADIK). "Bringing together three of the most voracious and energetic musical minds in new music, PainKiller was one of the most intense live bands ever. Here they are captured at their absolute peak. Culminating their legendary 1994 tour of Japan in a masterful set featuring one of their longest and most inspired improvisations, the thirty-five minute Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia. Beautifully recorded by the unsung fourth member of the group sound engineer Oz Frith and packaged in deliriously original artwork, Talisman is a long awaited new release by one of the most original and unique sax/bass/drum trios in musical history." I'm happy to see this, now I can hope that one day we'll get get an Archival Series release of Naked City live doing L'eng Che or the 00cd Zorn/Eye box, or..... Jeff

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RE: Trane's later years
by billashline＠netscape.net 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

>From: "Steve Smith"<ssmith36(a)sprynet.com> >To: skip Heller <velaires(a)earthlink.net> >Cc: florid oratory <connah(a)earthlink.net>, zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >Reply-To: ssmith36(a)sprynet.com >Subject: Re: Trane's later years >The last Coltrane group is so vastly UNDERrated it's just plain sad, and in >particular, Alice's role (though I can't say I'm so blown away with every >album that's currently being reissued in the ongoing rehabilitation of her >career). Even supporters fall prey to unwitting condescension - witness Bill >Shoemaker's recent Jazz Times review, where he basically credits Alice with >rolling up her sleeves and going to work like all good widows do, completely >disregarding her distinguished career preceding the years with Trane. Uggh. Yes, I have to agree on Alice Coltrane. I picked up most of Alice Coltrane's reissues this past year, and my favorite thus far is Tranfiguration. Eternity is by far the worst. But I do agree that John's last group was greatly underrated. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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