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Freak In
by Efrén del Valle 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Hi, I got my copy of Dave Douglas' "Freak In" yesterday to great disappointment. Cheered by those who compared its status to that of "Witness" I decided I could no longer wait for the album but after five listenings the only thing that comes to my mind is "What the hell is this?!" I find his attempt to add electronics to this music so clumsy and forced that the whole album sounds totally unnatural to me. The effects and rythms sound so worn that I'm still expecting some surprising turns. Fortunately, he gathered a good bunch of astonishing musicians to save him from the wreckage, with a special mention to a particularly inspired Ribot (if he ever wasn't). "Freak In" feels like an unsuccessful "rough assemblage" of not-so-disparate genres and although he reaches higher ground than outrageous failures like St. Germain & co, I still think the album is too low a flight (considering the signatory). Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle n.p: Rova "Ascension. San Franciso; feb 8th 2003" (bootleg) ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versiÃ³n GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y mÃ¡s... http://messenger.yahoo.es

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skip, patrice, evan parker, dave, poll, lord almighty
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

i'm embarrassed that after all this time, i hadn't noticed skip and patrice's divergent tastes. and now i'm genuinely curious. which one of you likes evan parker? zero-7? grand funk railroad? i was not impressed with freak in the first few times thru, but am finding bits of charm in it -- particularly when it's on random play with a few other discs -- seems like the contrast, pulling it out of its own context, helps me.... if anyone else studied the horn duos poll as carefully as waxman and wondered, the ayler brothers were named on two ballots.... martin np. tomasz stanko -- from the green hill

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Bunnys?
by tune dukez 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Has anybody got any 60's Bunnys recordings by Teri Taukechi and his friends. Or does anybody know where I can get them? Thanks, Tune --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

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Fred Hersch on Palmetto?
by Patrice L. Roussel 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

DMG lists a new Fred Hersch Trio: FRED HERSCH TRIO - live at the Village Vanguard (Palmetto 2088) Fred is not on Nonesuch anymore? Patrice.

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Re: Freak In
by Eyal Hareuveni 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

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Re: Burnt Sugar and Zorn (remember him?)
by alastair＠pretentious.co.uk 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

But Richard, did you stick around and see Jaga Jazzist? Who, thanks to Burnt Sugar playing for 90 minutes and some major fuck ups with the changeovers, didn't come on until 10.15? Whilst not entirely Burnt Sugar's fault - a start time of 8pm (QEH gigs normally start at 7.30 or 7.45), the aforementioned inefficiency of the QEH technicians and it being a Sunday didn't help - playing a 90 minute set as a support act robbed many punters of the chance to see the full Jaga Jazzist set, having to leave to catch last trains home. I managed to see the hour that they played but have no idea whether they played any encores (or had to curtail their set in any event because of the overrun) as, like most people, I had to get to work the next day. I think the extra half hour - completely taken up by what I thought was a turgid, overextended, soulless version of "Castles Made Of Sand", but our opinions obviously differ - showed a complete lack of respect to their fellow musicians. I don't think I was the only one was felt this was all too much either - when I escaped to the bar between sets a large amount of people had beaten me to it. I was also a little upset by the disingenuous ad in "The Wire" which suggested that Pete Cosey and Melvin Gibbs would be appearing. I thought the drummers were excellent and the sampler player useful when given the chance but the rest left me cold. And why, pray tell, was there a turntablist on stage? Any contribution she may have been making was inaudible. The night Richard went to see the Residents (last Monday), I went to see the Britten Sinfonia play the music of Johns Adams and Zorn, conducted by Stephen Drury. The Zorn pieces played were "Angelus Novus" and "For Your Eyes Only", and whilst I'm not qualified to state that these were excellent performances they sounded pretty good to me, having made sure to listen to earlier recordings of them before I went. I thought the programming worked well, with Adams' "Chamber Symphony" having strong cartoon and americana themes to complement Zorn's work. The same with John Woolrich's "Music From A House Of Crossed Desires". I didn't enjoy Janacek's "Rikadia" as much, but "classical" voices singing folk themes leave me cold. Sing naturally! Zorn was supposedly in the building, but didn't show up for the "author! author!" moment. I wasn't surprised as I really wouldn't expect it of him. That's a compliment by the way. Rant over. Alastair -----Original Message----- >From : Richard Gardner <richard.gardner(a)colourtone.co.uk> To : zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Date : 10 March 2003 08:40:16 Subject : Burnt Sugar At last Burnt Sugar has made it to London. I went to their gig at the Queen >Elizabeth Hall last night and loved it. > >I have always been interested in Greg Tate since his ground breaking >articles on Miles Davis mid 70's music in Downbeat 1982. When the Wire >reviewed Burnt Sugar a few years ago I tried to get their stuff but it is >impossible in the UK. Now they play a largish venue in London and I finally >get to see what its all about. > >At the risk of annoying NY residents who probably see this group regularly >here are a few brief words about Burnt Sugar. > >First off last night it was a big band: 2 drummers, bass, 2 guitars, >sax/clarinet, flute, keyboard, turntables, violin, cello, trumpet and 2 >female singers (one of whom distorts her voice - and I suspect the PA output >of the whole band - with some gizmo). The band are conducted by Greg Tate, >and I mean conducted, with a baton. To cut things short 3 elements >immediately came to mind: God Speed You! Black Emperor, Miles' Agharta band >and Sun Ra. The music clearly has heads and organised sections but then free >improvises while controlled by Tate. At its most dynamic he achieves that >sudden stop start of the beginning of Agharta. Often I was searching around >trying to work out where a sound, rising in the texture, was coming from. >They do a great version of Castles Made of Sand that, at one point, dropped >to a single vocal underpinned by stuttering drums that matched her beat for >beat. > >The ensemble has that loose feel of some Sun Ra performances, players >scamper up to Greg Tate for a quick discussion before leading off the next >part. At the end they seemed to have played long over the allotted time and >frantic looks were being exchanged to the side of the stage. This was >followed by a less than elegant finish - but I like that. > >I see from the album sleeves that Vernon Reid features among the huge >collective but I haven't heard the CDs yet. > >Greg Tate also proved a very nice guy. Very willing to chat and clearly very >pleased by how it had gone. > >The Residents tonight. > >Richard Gardner > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > -- Personalised email by http://another.com

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CDs for trade/cheap/free
by William York 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Hi, I am cleaning house and have a few things to pass along to the folks on this list, for CHEAP.... For sale/trade: Uri Caine/Gustav Mahler - Urlicht/Primal Light (w/ Douglas, Baron, Lindsay, Feldman, etc.) This has slight marks on the CD surface (ievitable due to Winter and Winter's fancy packaging) and a line drawn through the barcode on the back with a Sharpie ... otherwise it's in great shape. $5 would do it, plus shipping. Spring Heel Jack - The Blue Series Continuum - Masses (w/ E Parker, W Parker, Shipp, Berne, M Maneri, C Taborn, etc) Again, this has slight marks on the disc surface and a promo hole through the bar code, but it plays fine for me ... $4, plus shipping. Cruel Frederick - Birth of the Cruel (free jazz on SST ... this is just the disc and the front cover) $2 Also, I posted something a couple of months ago about some tapes that are basically free to a good home, but unfortunately, I lost the replies... Anyway, those tapes are: Steve Colemen - Rhythm People Cruel Frederick - We Are the Music We Play Henry Kaiser - Those Who Know History... Elliot Sharp - Tesselation Row Also, for trade only (or possibly free with other stuff) Yakuza - The Way of the Dead (experimental math-metal on Century Media w/ guest spot by Ken Vandermark... this is the slim cardboard promo copy and has slight marks on the disc, plays fine though) Matthew Shipp - Equlibrium (promo CD-R) (Or ... send me $25 and get it all....) Sorry for the intrusion, and thanks for reading, WY **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** ****************************************** Promote peace; protest war. Tell your government what you think about their policies. Congressional Switchboard: (202) 225-3121 Senate Switchboard: (202) 224-3121; White House comment line: (202) 456-1111; president(a)whitehouse.gov; vicepresident(a)whitehouse.gov; firstlady(a)whitehouse.gov ... for other email addresses see www.senate.gov; www.house.gov.

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RE: Sonic Youth
by Jim Flannery 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

Zach Steiner <zsteiner(a)butler.edu> wrote: >would every one say is Sonic Youth's least accessible album? _Silver Session_, _Goodbye 20th Century_, _The Whitey Album_ (as Ciccone Youth), _Kill Yr Idols_ -- Jim Flannery newgrange(a)talmanassociates.com

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horn duos poll results
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

The Zornlist poll of favorite horn duos March 14, 2003 True to form, zornithologists picked Zorn/Douglas as their favorite horn duo -- and then quickly fled for wildly diverse and individualistic choices. The numbers to the left of the names indicate the number of points received by a duo (Zorn/Douglas rec'd 19 points). The numbers in parenthesis to the right of the names indicate the number of ballots that duo was named on (Zorn/Douglas were named on 9 ballots). Where know number is indicated, the duo rec'd a single point on a single ballot. Two reminders about the rules: Each person casting a ballot was given five points to distribute among one or more favorites. And an ad hoc Hall of Fame was created to place a few famous and obvious duos off limits (Bird/Diz, Miles/Trane, Miles/Wayne, Ornette/Cherry, Stitt/Ammons, Sims/Cohn). 19 John Zorn/Dave Douglas (9) 5 Phil Woods/Lew Tabackin (1) 5 Michael Brecker/Randy Brecker (1) 4 Peter Brotzmann/Toshinori Kondo (2) 3.5 Steve Bernstein/Briggan Krauss (2) 3 John Coltrane/Eric Dolphy (2) 3 Eric Dolphy/Booker Little (2) 2.5 Jackie McLean/Hank Mobley (L. Morgan's Cornbread) (1) 2.5 John Coltrane/ Paul Quinchette (1) 2 Albert Ayler/Don Ayler (2) 2 Anthony Braxton/George Lewis (1) 2 Kidd Jordan/Fred Anderson (1) 2 Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis/Johny Griffin (1) 2 Bhob Rainey/ Greg Kelley (1) Bix Beiderbecke/Frankie Trumbauer Nat & Cannonball Adderley Art Farmer/Jackie McLean Art Pepper/Warne Marsh Chet Baker/Gerry Mulligan Lee Morgan/Wayne Shorter Freddie Hubbard/Wayne Shorter Eric Dolphy/Freddie Hubbard John Coltrane/Pharoah Sanders Blue Mitchell/Junior Cook (Horace Silver Quintet) Albert Ayler/Don Ayler Woody Shaw/Joe Henderson Dewey Redman/Ted Daniel Lester Bowie/Roscoe Mitchell Steve Lacy/Steve Potts Trevor Watts (as)/ John Stevens (t) Anthony Braxton/ Ray Anderson Joe McPhee (ss, ts, t, vt)/ Andre Jaume (ts, cl) Vladimir Chekasin/ Vladimir Chekasin (various reeds) Mats Gustafsson (bs, ts, fl)/ Gunter Christmann (tb) Ken Vandermark/Mats Gustafsson Ken Vandermark/Jeb Bishop Tim Berne/Vinny Golia Tim Berne/Herb Robertson Marty Erhlich/Tony Malaby Chris Speed/Cuong Vu Maurice Merle/Jean Paul Autin (members of a french association called ARFI for "Association à la Recherche d'un Folklore Imaginaire", playing in an often wonderful quartet 2sax&cla/bass/dms: "Worshop de Lyon") * Some ballots lacked point distributions, while Mr. Homegoing enthusiastically used far in excess of his allotment. In these instances, the Poll Administrator entered appropriate pointage.

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Some Cds for Sale
by Efrén del Valle 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

Hi, Sorry about the commercial nature of this e-mail. Here are some Cds I never really listen to. All of them are in good condition. -Arto Lindsay "Noon Chill" (Bar/None) -Arto Lindsay "The Subtle Body" (Bar/None) -John Zorn "Locus Solus" (Tzadik) -Derek Bailey & Susie Ibarra "Daedal" (Incus) -Ikue Mori "Labyrinth" (Tzadik) -Davka "Judith" (Tzadik) -Keiji Haino/Greg Cohen/Joey Baron "An Unclear Trial: More Than This" (Avant) -Kramer "Let Me Explain Something to You About Art" (Tzadik) -Marty Ehrlich/Peter Erskine/Michael Formanek "Relativity" (Enja) -Marty Ehrlich Quartet "Song" (Enja) -Marty Ehrlich/Ben Goldberg/Trevor Dunn/Kenny Wollesen "Light at the End of the Tunnel" (Songlines) -Marty Ehrlich's Dark Woods Ensemble "Just Before The Dawn" (New World) -Myra Melford "Above Blue" (Arabesque) -Carla Bley "4x4" (Watt) - Carla Bley "Fleur Carnivore" (Watt) -Frank London "The Shvitz" (Knitting F.) -What We Live Trio +Dave Douglas/Wadada Leo Smith "Trumpets" (Black Saint) -Bobby Previte "Too Close to the Pole" (Enja) -Soft Machine "Third" (Columbia) -Kazutoki Umezu "Ecclecticism" (Knitting F.) -Bobby Previte & Marc Ducret "In the Grass" (Enja) -Sebadoh "Bakesale" (??) -The Sea & Cake "Nassau" (??) -Jazz Passengers "Plain Old Joe" (Knitting F.) -William Burroughs "Dead City Radio" (Antilles) Please reply off-list. Thanks. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versiÃ³n GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y mÃ¡s... http://messenger.yahoo.es

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