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Lilker; Slowest Drummer; Fastest Drummer
by S.H. Kingston 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

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fast, slow, tasteful, tasteless drummers
by bsweet＠umich.edu 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

As long as we're on this drummer topic, I thought that you all might enjoy a story that drummer Bob Moses told regarding a workshop led by drummer Stu Martin at the legendary Creative Music Studio in Woodstock, New York. (Anybody remember Stu Martin?) It appears in the book Music Universe, Music Mind (http://www.arborville.com) "Bob says that this particular incident stands out in his mind because it was 'hilarious, but kind of cruel. . . . One of the people who studied with me,' Bob recalls, 'was one of the drummers playing in Stu's ensemble. I was watching them play, and it was maybe ten or twelve people--wailin', just full-out, free-form chaos. It was a couple of drummers, maybe three keyboards. You know how the instrumentation never really made any particular sense [at CMS workshops]; it was whoever showed up--like, four violin players, two keyboards, maybe two drummers, a bass clarinet, and a couple of acoustic guitars, which you couldn't hear. There had to have been maybe ten or fifteen people, and it was completely just [at this point Bob vocalizes over the phone, quite accurately, what ten or fifteen people playing total chaos might sound like]. I couldn't make out what any one person was playing; it wasn't like there was any separation. 'And I remember, Stu stopped the whole group in the middle and, like, went off on this guy who was playing drums, saying, 'you tasteless motherfucker!' In that context, what would constitute taste? What could the guy have done that was so wrong? What was right and what was wrong? This poor guy was traumatized for weeks trying to figure out what he had done. I thought that was really funny, even though it was kind of cold. I mean, I don't know what Stu was thinkin'. . . . But that cracked me up-- 'you tasteless motherfucker.'" Copyright 1996 Arborville Publishing Bob Sweet bsweet(a)umich.edu

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Re: World's fastest drummer
by Arthur Gadney 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

What about fastest drummer in terms of packing most information per minute and not just most beats? Many metal drummers play fast as hell, but it's often qutie simple and even more often terribly boring. Perhaps someone like Yoshida from Ruins. Very, very fast and incredibly complicated. Also Dave Witte can play very fast and complicated and often have cool beats, more in the traditional metal vain than Yoshida. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: Where's Horvitz?
by Eyal Hareuveni 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

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Kevin Sharp
by kevin.by 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

do anyone here have a clue what Kevin Sharp of Brutal Truth is up to these days? haven't heard from him since the Melvins "Crybaby" record. and what about Danny Lilker?? heard he had some noise-grindcore project up with Shane Embury of Napalm Death...

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RE: rawk
by kevin.by 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

i gotta second this post. Radiohead is a good contribution to the whole pop/rock scene but they don't deserve all that attention they are getting. Lambchop however, is one of few bands who have a very distinct and "special" sound. only H.G.H. have managed to do something similar - a very good band from Norway. they create a unique atmosphere live with strong roots in folk-rock. they sometimes sound like a cross between a folk-rock band and the Residents. last but not least, Cloroform is coming out with their final album and Noxagt "Turning it Down Since 2001" is very impressive! PS! Maija Radkje played live here in the city (Bergen) a month ago. i didn't attend myself but a good friend of mine told me she did very similar things to what Mike Patton is doing on his solo albums on Tzadik. very vocal-experimental stuff; voice through laptops. anyone else seen her shows recently? take care, kevin. >===== Original Message From ahorton <ahorton(a)vt.edu> ===== >I came to Zorn's music from indie rock, so I have to drop some comments. > >I think Radiohead are one of the least interesting bands currently recording >and making music; their songs are too intentionally "postmodern"/"faux-avant >garde" to touch me, or anyone, personally and emotionally, and the music is >wholly uninteresting as well. I'm tiring of so many people calling the band >"experimental", when they're simply doing things that other artists made safe >years ago. > >Ok, enough bitching aside- who's interesting in rock right now? > >I say: > >Enon- John Schmersal, who was in the seminal mid-nineties band Brainiac. After >"the guy" from Brainiac died, John started Enon. The first record, "believo!", >found him teaming up with two guys from Skeleton Key. It's a melange of >junkyard funk, lo-fi synth rock, and blistering post-pop. Great, great record. >Then, last year, he came back with a new backing band (Toko Yasuda, a gorgeous >girl who plays synth and bass alternately and also sings lead and backup) and >a drummer. They released "high society" last year, a mix of almost-synth pop, >straighforward poppy indie rock, grinding electro-rock, a sonic-youthy song, >and even the title track, a great, noirish Serge-by-way-of-Pulp number. I >think they're one of the more interesting indie rock bands making music right >now. > >Lambchop- If you guys haven't heard Lambchop, get thee to a record store! >They're an often-14 piece Nashville band doing an inexplicably perfect blend >of classic Lee hazlewood-esque 1970's country (the morricone-y strings, the >cavernous drums, the ghostly slide guitar) and 1970's R&B (the smooth horns, >the thrumming hammond, the wah-wah guitars). They're hot hot hot. > >Androo > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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Announcement Concerning Summer Sale
by Stephen Fruitman 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

It has come to my attention that the price of a registered letter (especially from the Americas to Europe) is pretty astronomical. Therefore, I am removing that term for anybody who wants to buy anything from the Summer Sale list of CDs I posted about a couple of weeks ago. All I require now is that you conceal the cash well and send the letter to my office address, below. As before, I am offering the CDs postpaid. If anyone would like me to re-send the list, just let me know. Regards, Stephen -- Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Umea University SE-901 87 Umea Sweden

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Charlie Rouse
by Parry Gettelman 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

> Conventional wisdom > says that Coltrane was the best saxophonist he ever had. I think, with > regards to the service of Monk's music, Rouse was beyond perfection. > > Indeed, indeed. And Rouse is just absurdly underacknowledged all around. What a remarkable tone.

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Where's Horvitz?
by AM FREQUENCIES 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

http://bbsgallery.ipecac.com/naked_city_20030617 great pics! just wondering where was Wayne Horvitz sitting? no pics of him.... I can see why Frisell made mistakes - he was totally in the dark (or that might just be the 'no-flash' pics HLK took, because Zorn yells at flash photos :) would have been nice to get a photo of Zorn & Bill & co hugging (from what I heard - or it could have been in Warsaw) - but great job anyway Heather. Andrew

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rock/metal, slow drums/bands, cremaster, etc.
by adam morosky 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

i'll chime in my two cents all at once to get it all out of the way. first of all, lombardo appeared in matthew barney's cremaster 2 (my personal favorite). i recommend the soundtrack to this film highly, great classical/avant/jazz/etc. from barney's musical composer Jonathan Bepler. i recommend Barney's beautiful new book "the cremaster cycle" available for around $40 on amazon. Barney is really into punk and hardcore, parts of the cremaster series had allusions to metal and hardcore (agnostic front and murphy's law were in cremaster 3). too bad he couldn't get SSD like he had wanted... in terms of slowness: SWANS ("filth" era) Melvins-s/t (originally released as "Lysol") Khanate (James Plotkin and Steven O'Malley) Old Man Gloom-seminar III: Zozobra (a thirty minute opus, one track, slow, epic. makes my hair stand) exquisite drumming (speed): Dave Witte (i.e. Discordance Axis, Human Remains) Brian Chippendale (of Lightning Bolt) Charles Hayward (This Heat, Camberwell Now) Lombardo for a good new rock record check out: Harkonen-"Shake Harder Boy" (on hydra head records, melvins meets botch) and i believe it is Manowar who holds the record for loudest band (correct me if i'm wrong). for good news on eye candy and slow music c/o Steven O'malley, see his website at: www.ideologic.org "slow is the new loud" -adam morosky _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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