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Zorn publications
by j4.porter＠student.qut.edu.au 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

Does anybody know if scores of any of Zorn's chamber works are available? John

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New Sonic Youth album
by Arthur Gadney 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Is there any preview tracks available on the net from the new Sonic Youth album? I think somebody mentioned it, somewhere, on some list... _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by Sean Murphy 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

<<What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a masterpiece. And if you consider the other albums sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are integrated is unique and mindblowing. Trey's use of beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can think of. He has achieved to create in the studio a sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop recording techniques. These are aesthetic choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't wait for the new shit to come out.>> what he said. -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Gallegos [mailto:abductor77@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:49 AM To: Efrén" del Valle; francko.lamerikx(a)philips.com; Zachary Steiner Cc: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105 What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a masterpiece. And if you consider the other albums sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are integrated is unique and mindblowing. Trey's use of beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can think of. He has achieved to create in the studio a sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop recording techniques. These are aesthetic choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't wait for the new shit to come out. Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> wrote: --- francko.lamerikx(a)philips.com escribió: > > In my opinion, SC3 has a lot of unrealized potential > that has not fully > materialized > on any of the first three albums (even though "Book > M" came pretty close). Sure enough. Imho, the SC3 have a really epic potential that hasn't been totally exploited so far, probably due to financial cappabilites and certainly not for a lack of ideas. The only thing is that so far, all their albums sound to me like a promising sketch of what's to come. I personally hope that this new trilogy does not follow the path of "Book M", but this is obviously a personal appreciation. It may be a more elaborate, studio-madness recording, but in the end the electronic brushtrokes sound really cheesy to me. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: SC3 "Second Grand Constitution and Bylaws" (Mimicry) ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, más protección contra el spam ¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _____ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality <http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=23765/*http://photos.yahoo.…> 4x6 digital prints for 25¢

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FES-isms
by > chromasoom audio visuele communicatie > 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Hey all, Ipecac will release 'FES-isms'. Patton made a personal selection of his favourite tracks from this Belgian Big Band Extraordinaire: Flat Earth Society (FES). Everybody should check this out when it's released! For more info http://www.fes.be. There's a double concert in Belgium on 27th of may, FES+Fantomas. For those who can be there, don't miss it, Fantomas will play Delirium Corda. Groets, Jan

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Re: cd maps
by Richard Gardner 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

On 21/4/04 1:49 pm, "zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com" <zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > tracking down the people who did the printing - fireproof press (sorry - i > no longer have any contact info) - led us to the people who manufacture > the cardbord 'gatefold' sleeves. > They also did the great covers for some of Steve Albini¹s CDs. Traditional presses (none of your offset litho for them!) Richard

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

> What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a masterpiece. And if you consider the other albums sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. > Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are integrated is unique and mindblowing. > Trey's use of beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can think of. > He has achieved to create in the studio a sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop recording techniques. > These are aesthetic choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't wait for the new shit to come out. There's not much wrong with it in my opinion, it is definitely my favorite SC3 album so far. I do not agree, though, that it is masterpiece. I think Trey has a masterpiece up his sleeve somewhere, that's why I use the term "unrealized potential" when discussing the SC3. Where I certainly do not agree with you is in his "inventive use of beats". In fact, I think Trey's use of beats is about the weakest aspect of the entire SC3 project. Not because I don't like beats - I have been an avid follower of drum'n'bass for years and have dozens of drum'n'bass 12"-es myself. But just because I've heard this beat stuff done so much better, I think Trey's use of it is misguided. He has improved, though, because I can barely stand to listen to the Atari Teenage Riot influenced beat-oriented stuff he did on earlier albums, as in "Jabalqa" and "Jabarsa" (and so can Trey himself, methinks, as he has been fulminating against ATR for quite some time now...). I always thought DJ Cheb I Sabbah did a great job in mixing beats with oriental and Indian influences... I also have mixed feelings about Trey's use of source materials sometimes. I love to find out about semi-obscure artists as much as the next person, but sometimes I feel that Trey is using just a bit too much of other people's material. Looking at the "Book M" album alone, no less than 3 tracks are covers: "Siege Perilous" is an interpretation of a medieval Saltarello; "Blaze of the Grail" is a cover of RD Burman's main theme for the movie "Shalimar", and "Safina" is a cover of a song from one of the Ethiopiques albums (which, incidentally, is also covered by The Daktaris on their "Soul Explosion" album, where it is called "Musicawa Silt"). I hear definite traces of a Rafic Hoebeika track which is on the "Belly Dance Vol.2" compilation (VLD519) in "Combat for the Angel". And I bet you there are ideas gained from other world music in some of the other tracks, too. I think his choice of source material is impeccable, and there are very good reasons why he chooses particular tracks (cf. the cover of the "Exodus" theme by Ernest Gold on the new album refers directly back to the "The Red Sea Is Your Blood" theme which ran through the second SC3 album...). That said, I love what he is doing, and I definitely think the new album is going to blow everything out of the water. We'll know in a couple of weeks time...! Frankco

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by Efrén del Valle 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

--- Jorge Gallegos <abductor77(a)yahoo.com> escribiÃ³: > What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a > masterpiece. Well, certainly not in mine. It's just a matter of personal appreciations. And if you consider the other albums > sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. I didn't make myself clear here. I meant that, although I like them, I suspect that there's a lot of potential that could explode in forthcoming works. That would be closer to my impression. > Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in > which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are > integrated is unique and mindblowing. 100% agreed. Trey's use of > beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate > them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can > think of. Really? I can't see any distinctiveness or a special good taste in Spruance's treatment of electronic beats, to be honest. I'm don't really listen to breakbeats or drum'n'bass or things like that at home, but if you asked me I wouldn't point you to "Book M" as an example of electronics virtuosity, although I respect Spruance's work a lot and I always keep an eye on his projects. He has achieved to create in the studio a > sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern > pop recording techniques. These are aesthetic > choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't > wait for the new shit to come out. Neither do I. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, mÃ¡s protecciÃ³n contra el spam Â¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es

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Miles Box Sets Re-releases?
by Pierre Toussaint 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I read somewhere and not to long ago that they are re-releasing the box sets in cheaper boxes (without metal hinges for example) but everything will be there (the music and the booklets). --------------------------------- LÃ¨che-vitrine ou lÃ¨che-Ã©cran ? Yahoo! Magasinage.

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Zorn covers??
by Gullasch Baronen 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Hi there. Who's in charge of the Zorn covers project? I might want to contribute. Who do I contact?? Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://www.msn.dk/messenger

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Miles Box Sets Re-releases?
by Zachary Steiner 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I see quite a few Miles boxes are being released (again?) in May. Among these are the Gil Evans box, the quintet, Bitches Brew sessions, and In a Silent Way. I thought these were already available. Am I wrong? What's Sony up to? Zach

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