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Re: guitarists: classical/oleg timofeyev
by ericksna＠umich.edu 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone on the list was familiar with the guitarist Oleg Timofeyev. He's apparently some kind of pioneer in researching and playing the Russian seven-string guitar (tuned D G B d g b d'), which died out some time after the first half of the 19th century. A couple of years back I took an undergraduate course with him on russian music and culture, thought he was great, although I've never heard anything about him either before or after. He's by no means of an avant guarde, experimental or improvised background, but I found him to be at least a unique take on classical guitar. And, as long as we are talking about guitarists, does anyone have any particular favorite classical guitarists, or classical guitar albums, interests, or is this the wrong thing to ask of people more attuned to keiji haino nathan

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RE: Foreign/cult films
by Sean Murphy 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

yeah, 'requiem for a dream' got lots of props, but i thought 'pi' was far better in every regard. in addition to being a unique story, it also managed to be subtle and understated--which seems increasingly anathema in art in general (and films in particular). i would heartily second the recommendation for anyone who was thinking of checking out 'pi'... -----Original Message----- From: Zachary Steiner [mailto:zsteiner@butler.edu] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:13 PM To: perfect(a)furious.com; zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: Foreign/cult films >> Sean Guilette: Pi is about a mathematician who's going insane trying to figure out the connection between number sequences and the stock market and Jewish mysticism. Not foreign but definitely cult. He's definitely the lead actor (and co-writer) in Pi, but Darren Aronofsky was the director/writer. I enjoyed Pi quite a bit and caused me to have high expectations for Requiem for a Dream. I ended up despising the latter quite a bit. It used the same tricks as Pi, but not to good effect. The final "horrific" scene which intercut the fates of the protagonists' drug addictions was nothing close to effecting or disturbing, just funny. A group of naked middle aged guys chanting "Ass to Ass" is sadly funny; did not create the effect intended. I highly recommend Pi. On a side note: I think the score was very effective in Pi, but a Masada/Naked City hybrid courtesy of Mr. Zorn would have been cool, too. Zach _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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Re: Um... wow. Japan.+ BNS
by Corbin Booth 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

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Re: summer reading list
by Herb Levy 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

"Benito Vergara" <bvergara(a)sfsu.edu> wrote: >Summer's almost done and there's no summer reading list thread yet? =) What >are you Zornlisters reading? Maybe summer's "almost done" for some of you folks with .edu e-addresses, but I count about 8 more weeks of summer looking at the calendar. And here in Texas, every day of those weeks will be pushing 100 degrees F (that's almost 38 degrees for those of you who use Centigrade). In the last couple of weeks, I've had a little too much time to read and not quite enough work, unfortunately. I've recently finished: Eunoia by Christian Bok (there's an umlaut over the o in his last name) - (this is a stylistic tour de force that's also very funny and charming a long narrative poem in five sections, each of which uses ONLY one of the five vowels in the English language, plus some other related writings); Gilligan's Wake by Tom Carson (an odd collection of episodes filtering recent American history through a wide array of cultural characters, some real and some fictional, including most of the characters of Gilligan's Island); Agape' Agape by William Gaddis (a very short monologue in the voice of a dying man about, well, sort of about why he never finished writing a book about the player piano as an image for all that went wrong with culture in the last hundred years); The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon (funny book written from the point of view of an autistic teenager); Vietnam Shadows by Arnold Isaacs ( very good, with a more complex analysis than I'd expected from the recommendation I'd received)); & I also had to/got to read Cold Mountain by Frazier (well written, but boring (I'm not FROM the South) historical novel about the AmericanCivil War) for a book group we're in. I'm taking Joseph McElroy's Actress in the House (from the first couple of chapters it may be the most clearly written in a convention sense of all his books); Lyn Hejinian's Border Comedy ( along non-narrative poem in many sections all of which seem to all of the vowels all the time. For anyone who care, Hejinian is married to ROVA's Larry Ochs, she co-edits a series of books for a press named Atelos with support from Hips Road (the non-profit that also supports Tzadik), & Border Comedy is dedicated to Zorn.); & Lavish Absence by Rosmarie Waldrop (a memoir about her translations of and collaboration with Edmond Jabes) with me on vacation this weekend. When I'm back home in mid-August, I hope to spend some time with Immemory by the French film maker Chris Marker, which is a CD-ROM published by Exact Change, a mainly literary press that also published Morton Feldman's collected writings, which I'd recommend to anyone on this list, even Skip. Zachary Steiner <zsteiner(a)butler.edu> wrote: >I just finished "If on a Winter's Night a Traveler" by Italo Calvino. >Experimental, but very fun to read; not a common combination. It is >also the only book written in second person, that I have read. That book IS fun. There are some other uses of the 2nd person, most that I know of are from the late 20th century, though there could well be earlier works too. Every third chapter of Carlos Fuentes' Death of Artemio Cruz is in the 2nd person. Several other books by Latin American authors from the 1960s-80s may also be written at least in part in the 2nd person. Several novels by Gilbert Sorrentino use the 2nd person as well. In a very different mode, Ron Silliman's Sunset Debris (a long section of his longer work Age of Huts, which in turn is in some way or another part of a longer work that's a prelude to his still unfinished Alphabet) is functionally written in the 2nd person. (It's a long series of questions that accumulate as a kind of interrogation of the reader.) -- Herb Levy P O Box 9369 Fort Worth, TX 76147 herb(a)eskimo.com

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RE: Cobra and Other "game" peices
by ahorton 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

Not to be contrarian, but I've always harbored a sneaking suspicion that Zorn's "game pieces" are really just an elaborate in-joke, a sort of improvisation-based charade meant to be funny. andrew

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Cobra and Other "game" peices
by Nick Utrie 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

I had the good fortune to see John Zorn twice in the early 90's once in Madison WI 93 or 94. and again near that same time at the Walker Arts Center in MN with a work-in-progress (never realize fully , i don't think) call the Houdini DeSade Project. Is anyone out there familar with the composital structure of CORBA? I know it might be based on game ideas (rolling dice, cards instructions etc..) but when people preform it what are the rules ? I have only been able to gleen snips and snaps based on reviews, linear notes, the show I saw...ect.. I have come up with my own interperation of how it they are put together and now would like to hear what is actually involved. I would like to know what seperates the game peices --- particularly the 'mythical, ledgenary' Cobra...sample scores or instructions? thanks Nick

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Gary Lucas
by alastair＠pretentious.co.uk 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

-----Original Message----- >From : Mitch Tyo <dexteron0(a)hotmail.com> To : ; modbohemian2(a)hotmail.com Date : 04 August 2003 14:17:32 Subject : Re: zorn-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 >My money goes to the Grammy-nominated Gary Lucas. Not only can he tackle >>about any genre, but he does so exceedingly well. His fingers must contain >>bullets to move as fast as they do across the frets. Has anyone here ever >>seen him in concert? > I have, at the Borderline in London a few years back. We were sat on bar stools very close to the stage and I still couldn't work out what he was doing. He is phenomenal. One of the support bands were the Kenny Process Team. Anyone familiar with these great gentlemen? Alastair -- Personalised email by http://another.com

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Re: zorn-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2
by Mitch Tyo 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

>My money goes to the Grammy-nominated Gary Lucas. Not only can he tackle >about any genre, but he does so exceedingly well. His fingers must contain >bullets to move as fast as they do across the frets. Has anyone here ever >seen him in concert? Never seen him, but I have a live recording of him doing Albert Ayler's "Ghosts" on a steel guitar on my "Live at the Knitting Factory Vol. 2" record. It's great. But then, that whole record is pretty interesting. Joey Baron playing keyboards, a LOT of synth, and one of the best "Foxy Lady" covers ever. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Hamid Drake
by Stefania Errore 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

Hi All, I had the great chance to listen to Hamid Drake and Assif Tzahar duo in Rome. I should say...the concert was astonishing! Hamid Drake, he's not simply a great drummer... there's more... a kind of open magical spiritual connection... So it's a wonderful surprise, such geniuses... Zorn, Laswell and Drake together.... lucky who will have the chance to listen to this concert! If you want to check out more about Hamid Drake...visit the web-site http://www.hamiddrake.com if you will among his discography, also the CDs and some great Creative musicians Raining on the Moon, by William Parker a modern giant Charles Mingus with an extraordinary voice Leena Conquest or Vision Quest by Nicole Mitchell a beautiful-wonderful composer http://www.nicolemitchell.com well that's it...and I really wish to be in NY for the concert! hopefully they'll come to Europe as well! Ciao! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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2nd person
by elundber＠sfu.ca 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

@nd person recommendations. Choose your own adventure sucks because, like early Sierra video games, there is no deducible reason for making any particular choice. It is a question of sheer luck if you make the right choice. That is why it is so boring. If there were some actual detecting, it would have been awesome. I really liked Encyclopedia Brown for that. Did anyone read The Three Investigators? I love those books. Jupiter Jones, a.k.a. Baby Fatso. After they solved a case they would visit Alfred Hitchcock and relate the adventure to him. The books are targeting, I would say, a twelve year old male audience, so why dedicate the last chapter of every book to a conversation with Alfred Hitchcock? Awesome. I'm looking for Masaru Sato' soundtracks to "Yojimbo" and "Sanjuro." If anyone has these and would be willing to trade for them please e-mail me privately. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Asreifnu Shahid, truly one of the great guitarists for advanced micro-tonals. best, Eric

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