Yello - Bostich remix wav
Glenn wrote:
I think you meant a car that only steers to the left. If the car also steers to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :)
Last time I drove a car I also needed to steer straight forward. Otherwise I will be going in circles.
But it does look like you are starting to understand what a remix contest is all about. It is like each contestant is building their own car. Beatport supplies some of the parts.
You cant make a good car with faulty parts. It wont be approved by the car testing authorities. Oh well. Maybe my 10 years in the music biz and putting on a few remix contests didn learn me a thing, and Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter :-) Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor ============================== My response: Glenn, There is nothing faulty about using high quality mp3 files for a remix contest. The Soul On Ice Remix Contest proved that. It was a huge success and delivered over 300 remixes. Many of which I still listen to and enjoy today. The following quote was taken directly from the contest rules of one of the Beatport remix contests. "The contest is being judged on originality of remix, not sound quality. You do not need to download the WAV files to enter the remix contest, unless of course you want to. If your remix is chosen as a winner, there will be time to have your tracks mastered to highest quality. " . You also mentioned: "Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter." I don't run remix contests I leave it to the professionals like Beatport, Yello, Depeche Mode, The Black Eyed Peas, Danny Tanaglia, Paul Van Dyke. These people all have strong reputations. I know them and I'm pretty sure they know a little bit more about the music business then you or I. btw: Steering was put on a car to give it the ability to turn right or left. Even when you are going straight down the road you are actually making tiny right and left steering adjustments to keep the car going straight. Before wheeled vehicles had steering they only went straight. So if your steering wheel turns all the way to the left and all the way to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :-) , Jonathan :-)
Can you guys take your arguing off list thank you very much! It is annoying and boring!! Raphael On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Jon Kamm <kammagic@comcast.net> wrote:
Glenn wrote:
I think you meant a car that only steers to the left. If the car also steers to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :)
Last time I drove a car I also needed to steer straight forward. Otherwise I will be going in circles.
But it does look like you are starting to understand what a remix contest is all about. It is like each contestant is building their own car. Beatport supplies some of the parts.
You cant make a good car with faulty parts. It wont be approved by the car testing authorities.
Oh well. Maybe my 10 years in the music biz and putting on a few remix contests didn learn me a thing, and Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter :-)
Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor ============================== My response: Glenn, There is nothing faulty about using high quality mp3 files for a remix contest. The Soul On Ice Remix Contest proved that. It was a huge success and delivered over 300 remixes. Many of which I still listen to and enjoy today. The following quote was taken directly from the contest rules of one of the Beatport remix contests. "The contest is being judged on originality of remix, not sound quality. You do not need to download the WAV files to enter the remix contest, unless of course you want to. If your remix is chosen as a winner, there will be time to have your tracks mastered to highest quality. " . You also mentioned: "Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter." I don't run remix contests I leave it to the professionals like Beatport, Yello, Depeche Mode, The Black Eyed Peas, Danny Tanaglia, Paul Van Dyke. These people all have strong reputations. I know them and I'm pretty sure they know a little bit more about the music business then you or I.
btw: Steering was put on a car to give it the ability to turn right or left. Even when you are going straight down the road you are actually making tiny right and left steering adjustments to keep the car going straight. Before wheeled vehicles had steering they only went straight. So if your steering wheel turns all the way to the left and all the way to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :-) , Jonathan :-) _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael Ackermann" <raphael.ackermann@gmail.com>
Can you guys take your arguing off list thank you very much! It is annoying and boring!!
Oh, sorry, I thought this was the Yello discussion list. You know, where people discuss Yello things, such as Yello remix contests. Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor http://www.PlanetOrigo.com http://twitter.com/planetorigo Sci-fi movies | Electronic music
I don't mind discussions about yello etc but recently there have been "discussions" where the point is more to lecture the other person about what is right and what is wrong then on the topic itself. You don't get extra points if you can convince a guy that he is wrong. And there is no need to defend Yello. We are all old enough on this list to have our own opinions. And nobody here is speaking as a representative of Yello. If some people want to share music legally or illegally or think that mp3 is not good enough. You can have a different opinion and you can voice it, but there is no need to attack somebody that has a different opinion. This might be fun for the guys involved but not for everybody else. I believe I speak for the silent majority here. But obviously feel free to do your bickering in public. Raphael On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Glenn Folkvord - PlanetOrigo.com <glenn@folkvord.net> wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael Ackermann" <raphael.ackermann@gmail.com>
Can you guys take your arguing off list thank you very much! It is annoying and boring!!
Oh, sorry, I thought this was the Yello discussion list. You know, where people discuss Yello things, such as Yello remix contests.
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I like how Raphael got Glenn and Jon to be friends and pit against him. He really knows how to bring people together :) On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Franz Gall wrote:
I agree with Raphael.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Raphael Ackermann <raphael.ackermann@gmail.com
wrote: I don't mind discussions about yello etc but recently there have been "discussions" where the point is more to lecture the other person...
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Klonk Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:11:22 -0500 veschprigt mroktar Jon Kamm <kammagic@comcast.net> [re: [Yello] Yello - Bostich remix wav]:
There is nothing faulty about using high quality mp3 files for a remix contest. The Soul On Ice Remix Contest proved that. It was a huge success and delivered over 300 remixes. Many of which I still listen to and enjoy today.
The following quote was taken directly from the contest rules of one of the Beatport remix contests.
"The contest is being judged on originality of remix, not sound quality. You do not need to download the WAV files to enter the remix contest, unless of course you want to. If your remix is chosen as a winner, there will be time to have your tracks mastered to highest quality. "
This is the same sort of thinking that gets us all the foo-fah magic hokum in shows like CSI: Las Vegas where the actors use Mandrake-the-Magician-esque "technology" to zoom in on a reflection off someone's watch, thence through a car's rearview mirror, and thence to read some off-distant license plate. "there will be time to have your tracks mastered"... presupposes that the remix itself was done with quality ingredients. What they are TRYING to say is that somehow, if you win, your track, made with crappy MP3s, will be Kammagically mastered to a higher quality! Zing! Zowee! Hollywood! It doesn't work that way. It order to attain professionally publishable results, our intrepid winning remixer extraordinaire would have to completely remix his or her remix - due directly to the absolute fact that there would be inherent timing issues between even the original source WAV/AIFF/RAW audio sample and any compression made directly therefrom - even if said remix-o-master decompresses back to WAV/AIFF. They won't line up the same. Retardation for sale. --gcr
----- Original Message ----- From: <klort@hydrophilus.com>
"there will be time to have your tracks mastered"... presupposes that the remix itself was done with quality ingredients. What they are TRYING to say is that somehow, if you win, your track, made with crappy MP3s, will be Kammagically mastered to a higher quality! Zing! Zowee! Hollywood!
What's the technical description for something like an MP3 remix contest? "Shit in, shit out"...... Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor http://www.PlanetOrigo.com http://twitter.com/planetorigo Sci-fi movies | Electronic music
sound quality wise I agree, but certainly dont agree that it will make the remix end result "shit" Stella was made using 8 bit synths, fairlight which is crap compared to mp3 quality, but that doesnt make Stella shit though? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Folkvord - PlanetOrigo.com" <glenn@folkvord.net> To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Yello] Yello - Bostich remix wav
----- Original Message ----- From: <klort@hydrophilus.com>
"there will be time to have your tracks mastered"... presupposes that the remix itself was done with quality ingredients. What they are TRYING to say is that somehow, if you win, your track, made with crappy MP3s, will be Kammagically mastered to a higher quality! Zing! Zowee! Hollywood!
What's the technical description for something like an MP3 remix contest? "Shit in, shit out"......
Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor
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Fairlight!!!! ! Bow to the old king of Samplers. "Yougottasayyes" was the first yello album made with the king. 2009/11/2 Daniel B <danielb@w2s.net>
sound quality wise I agree, but certainly dont agree that it will make the remix end result "shit"
Stella was made using 8 bit synths, fairlight which is crap compared to mp3 quality, but that doesnt make Stella shit though?
Dan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Folkvord - PlanetOrigo.com" < glenn@folkvord.net> To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." < yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Yello] Yello - Bostich remix wav
----- Original Message ----- From: <klort@hydrophilus.com>
"there will be time to have your tracks mastered"... presupposes that the
remix itself was done with quality ingredients. What they are TRYING to say is that somehow, if you win, your track, made with crappy MP3s, will be Kammagically mastered to a higher quality! Zing! Zowee! Hollywood!
What's the technical description for something like an MP3 remix contest? "Shit in, shit out"......
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Klonk Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:34:40 -0000 veschprigt mroktar "Daniel B" <danielb@w2s.net> [re: Re: [Yello] Yello - Bostich remix wav]:
sound quality wise I agree, but certainly dont agree that it will make the remix end result "shit"
Stella was made using 8 bit synths, fairlight which is crap compared to mp3 quality, but that doesnt make Stella shit though?
Touche`. I would revise my argument to include a "by today's standards" clause. Else, you're correct. But... I'll bet my twin original copies of the KLF's "Space" that Boris didn't remaster Solid Pleasure through Flag with mp3'd data. :) --gcr
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel B" <danielb@w2s.net>
sound quality wise I agree, but certainly dont agree that it will make the remix end result "shit"
Of course not. I think we're all speaking of the sound quality here, compared to what it could have been.
Stella was made using 8 bit synths, fairlight which is crap compared to mp3 quality, but that doesnt make Stella shit though?
No, but they always used whatever best technology they could get their hands on. 8 bit synths still dont have the synch faults of MP3s. Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor http://www.PlanetOrigo.com http://twitter.com/planetorigo Sci-fi movies | Electronic music
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