November 2009 - Yello - mailman.xmission.com

The Expert-Spencer & Hill remix
by Graeme Fishwick 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfAICUkMRxQ&feature=related

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"Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer & Hill The Expert Mix"
by Jon Kamm 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Klort wrote" >>"The Touch Yello 8 Track promo was tainted with compression and a lack of cover art. " Seriously? They were better quality then what iTunes and Amazon sell to millions of people everyday. , Jonathan

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Who's gone??
by Arno Natte 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

...The Bostich samples from Beatport Wierd thing... It would probebly return in a few weeks whan the contest will start. If not,..I'm fortuned that I purcased it.:-) -- Arno Natte-Trillian Miles Social: http://www.facebook.com/arno.natte http://arno-natte.hyves.nl/ Personal music compositions: http://www.myspace.com/trilliano http://www.last.fm/music/trillian+miles Composed voor tv: http://www.karma.tv/ Composed for radio: http://www.purejingles.com/ Remixes : http://soundcloud.com/trillian-miles My album on Itunes music: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=317552080&s=…

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Lyrics?
by Juhana Sadeharju 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Has anyone written down the lyrics for Touch Yello? I started but nothing complete. Juhana

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"Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer&Hill The Expert Mix"
by Jon Kamm 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Klort wrote: Klonk Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:34:34 -0600 veschprigt mroktar Jon Kamm <kammagic@???> [re: [Yello] "Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer&Hill The Expert Mix"]: >My response: > >It's not about what .... I think. LADIES & GENTLEMENFOLK! We have it in iWriting, straight from iKamm's very own iKeyboard! --gcr ====================== You are acknowledging the truth? How unlike you. At least we have it in writing. Thanks Klort! I thought I was a big Apple fan! Do you realize you put an i before each of the nouns in your sentence? Now thats a hard core fan. , Jonathan

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"Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer&Hill The Expert Mix"
by Jon Kamm 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Glenn wrote: OK, so you have decided that radio chatter is the border for where YOU wont buy the music. However, such files is STILL potentially "threatening" to music sales as some people will maybe be put off buying the CD when hearing the files, even with chatter. For other people, the border is elsewhere. For me, I would not pay for 128 kbps MP3s but it isnt normally regarded as "fair use" or in any way OK to post 128 kbps files on the web. I would not normally pay for 192 kbps files either, so now I will post all of Yello's available albums in 192 kbps quality in some websites. Give me a couple of days and it's done, I will let you know the links here and in other groups. I would never pay for 192 kbps MP3s so it's no problem! Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor http://www.PlanetOrigo.com http://twitter.com/planetorigo Sci-fi movies | Electronic music =========================== My response: It's not about what you or I think. It's about what the "masses" think is reasonable. They have shown us with out a doubt that the files that iTunes and Amazon deliver are worth spending their money on. Would they spend money for a song that was incomplete? A song that had parts of it ruined by voice overs? It's pretty safe to say "No they wouldn't". Why would they? I wouldn't and it's clear you wouldn't. You wouldn't even buy complete songs off of iTunes or Amazon. The majority of people nowadays listen to their music on their phones, their ipods, their car stereos, their computers. These are all places where pristine audio quality is not necessary. But it is necessary that the song is complete. ,Jonathan

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"Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer &Hill The Expert Mix"
by Jon Kamm 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Glenn wrote: Where exactly goes the limit/border for when a track/file is tainted enough to be allowed to be distributed legally? Is it at 192 kbps compression, 128 kbps, 96 kbps.... or with one audible voice appearance? Or two? Or three? And if there is a border, who decides where it goes? You? Yello? IFPI? The president of the USA? Michael Moore? The clerk working down at Radio Shack? My grandmother? A music pirate? Do you think internet sharing like you did is OKed because the track is "tainted"? > If you can't understand that then we don't need to discuss it any > further. The only thing I dont understand is where the border goes, and why you define where it goes. Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor http://www.PlanetOrigo.com http://twitter.com/planetorigo Sci-fi movies | Electronic music =============================== My response: Glenn that's easy to answer. Just ask yourself "What would you pay for?" Millions of people everyday buy tracks from iTunes and Amazon at less quality then the 8 track sampler was posted at. How many tracks would Amazon and iTunes sell if they came with random chatter talking over the music?....None. , Jonathan

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"Touch Yello 8-Track Album-Preview (Promo)" vs. "Spencer & Hill The Expert Mix"
by Jon Kamm 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Klort, The track I posted was tainted. It had voice overs from French DJs which ruined several parts of the track. Any one interested in the mix would still have to purchase a quality version. The Touch Yello 8 track promo was high quality untainted full tracks. Big Difference! If you can't understand that then we don't need to discuss it any further. , Jonathan

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Yello - Bostich remix wav
by Jon Kamm 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Glenn wrote: > I think you meant a car that only steers to the left. If the car also > steers to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :) Last time I drove a car I also needed to steer straight forward. Otherwise I will be going in circles. > But it does look like you are starting to understand what a remix > contest is all about. It is like each contestant is building their own > car. Beatport supplies some of the parts. You cant make a good car with faulty parts. It wont be approved by the car testing authorities. Oh well. Maybe my 10 years in the music biz and putting on a few remix contests didn learn me a thing, and Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter :-) Greetings from Glenn Folkvord Chief editor ============================== My response: Glenn, There is nothing faulty about using high quality mp3 files for a remix contest. The Soul On Ice Remix Contest proved that. It was a huge success and delivered over 300 remixes. Many of which I still listen to and enjoy today. The following quote was taken directly from the contest rules of one of the Beatport remix contests. "The contest is being judged on originality of remix, not sound quality. You do not need to download the WAV files to enter the remix contest, unless of course you want to. If your remix is chosen as a winner, there will be time to have your tracks mastered to highest quality. " . You also mentioned: "Jon will revolutionize the remix concept by offering artists "great" MP3 files hereafter." I don't run remix contests I leave it to the professionals like Beatport, Yello, Depeche Mode, The Black Eyed Peas, Danny Tanaglia, Paul Van Dyke. These people all have strong reputations. I know them and I'm pretty sure they know a little bit more about the music business then you or I. btw: Steering was put on a car to give it the ability to turn right or left. Even when you are going straight down the road you are actually making tiny right and left steering adjustments to keep the car going straight. Before wheeled vehicles had steering they only went straight. So if your steering wheel turns all the way to the left and all the way to the right there is nothing wrong with the steering. :-) , Jonathan :-)

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Yello - Bostich remix wav
by Jon Kamm 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Yes, Thank you Daniel! The remix contest is a level playing field. All contestants are given the same pieces to work with. The contest is designed to find the best remixer. Either you think you have what it takes to win or you don't. Those who don't will not enter. Simple as that. I have no respect for those who don't enter and then have to validate why they are not entering by bashing the contest. , Jonathan

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