Lou Using high magnification/short focal length eyepieces help cut down brightness also. The short focal length eyepiece is looking at a smaller portion of the focal plane thereby rejecting much of the other light. The trade off is, then you have to track the object more vigorously. Jim Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA <Louis.Griffin@HILL.af.mil> wrote: "I think the filters did for me is that it kept my eye from being overwhelmed by the bright light of the moon." Jim, after your post yesterday I got both of my scopes out and had a look, I am intrigued, but I definately need some filtration especially with the dob, but even the Mak Newt was painfully bright but the contrast at the edge of the darkness was phenomenal. What filter would work the best at just keeping the light down - any idea how dark it needs to be? _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.