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Last of the moon
by Jim Gibson 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

At 5:30 this morning while passing through Cedar Fort I caught a slender section of an orange moon just rising over the mountains with the eastern sky beginning to brighten. At 6:25 when I dropped my wife off at her work area on Dugway Proving Ground the moon was a good 15 degrees or more above the horizon, a beautiful light yellow color in a sea of baby blue. By the time I got to my work area at 6:45 the sky had brightened and the slender section of the once striking moon had faded in contrast with the morning dawn. Tomorrow morning it will be a lot thinner and a lot more difficult to see. JG Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

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RE: [UVAA] Friday and Saturday night
by Paul Witte 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

I will likely show up at Pit-n-Pole on Saturday also. ---------- From: Sean Humpherys Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:25 AM To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association Subject: [UVAA] Friday and Saturday night Wow, there were a lot of postings this evening. As I consolidate the consensus, here is what people are planning. Correct the list if I'm wrong. Friday, Mar 19 at Gravel Pit ---------------------------- Louis Griffin Richard Tenney Dottie Sean Humpherys Melissa Heaton Rochelle Davison Thad Lloyd Saturday, Mar 20 at Pit-n-Pole ------------------------------ Lisa Zeigler David Trevino Jonathan and wife Aaron Lambert John Lundwall Kathryn Mechling and son Happy Sky watching! Sean Humpherys _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa

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RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit?
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

The pit is near Kamas - the directions were posted on here about 7-8 posts back or on the UVAA website Message board (JUl 2003 Post) if you still can't find them I'll re post them..... -----Original Message----- From: uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of J Waterreus Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:44 PM To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association Subject: Re: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? We've got other plans on Saturday night. Friday night be an option for us, depending on where it is. I'm not familiar with the gravel pit. Dottie David Trevino wrote: I can't go Friday and I was planning on going to the pit n' pole on Saturday. --- John and Lisa Zeigler <mailto:john@johnstelescopes.com> <john(a)johnstelescopes.com> wrote: Was anyone still planning on going to the pit n' Pole on Saturday, or should we just do the gravel pit on Friday. It would be nice to get as big a group as possible at one or the other. Lisa Zeigler _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com <mailto:UVAA@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com> _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com <mailto:UVAA@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa>

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RE: [UVAA] Workshop
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Rich, or anyone else that may have the know how.... Is there an easier way to clean my Primary mirror without removing it from the mirror box? (20" Truss Tube) Or is soap and water with cotton balls / cotton drying the only way??? -----Original Message----- From: uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Richard Tenney Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:25 AM To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association Subject: Re: [UVAA] Workshop I'd be happy to attend and help out however I can. I certainly do fit the "old timer" category, though don't set your expectations too high regarding my usefulness or astro-saavy. ;o) I'm going to leave this to Jim to plan it, but count me in... Rich --- Jim Gibson <jimgibson00(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > You know what I think would be fun is some evening > before dark meet out at the Pit 'n Pole or the > Gravel Pit and have a workshop while the sun is > still up. I was thinking of doing something like > this in connection with UVAA. Since UVAA doesn't > have regular meetings and I get all the meetings I > need at SLAS it would be kind of nice to see > everybody's face in the light and people can > demonstrate some aspect of astronomy that works for > them; just basic stuff. You know, bring your Subway > sandwiches and munch while for a while, nothing > really formal. > > > > The problem with suggesting such a thing usually > means the suggestor gets the job, and I don't mind > as long as it doesn't become a regular job. It would > probably fizzle after a while, after the willing in > the group had their chance, but what the hey. > > > > There seems to be a lot of new blood in Utah Valley > and "Old Timers" like Rich Tenney could teach us a > lot (he he he). Actually everybody ought to have > something that works for them and could demonstrate > it. We ought to be able to show how collimation > basics are really done - with and with out a laser > pointer. We ought to spend some time (after the sun > goes down) just pointing out constellations. We > ought to show what sky chats work well, what > interesting objects are in current constellations, > what comets are around, asteroids, telescope > building, binoculars, all kinds of fun things. > > > > I am thinking that it would have to be on an off > weekend when SLAS wasn't having a Star Party and the > moon didn't come up till after 10 or 11 or > something. Or when the moon goes down at 2AM we > could meet at 2:30 AM - uhhh. What? No taker on that > one. > > > > Just throwing this out to everyone on the list to > see if there is any interest. This could beat the > heck out of a meeting. Even Rob on Maui could come, > or better yet, Rob could through down some futons > and we will visit him. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam> _______________________________________________ > UVAA mailing list > UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa

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RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit?
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Looks like there will be a contingency at both the Pit N Pole and the gravel pit - I am from Ogden so I will going to the gravel pit as that is closest for me. If Rich Tenney shows up then pretty much all your bases will be covered as far as getting some help with your Dob, if not, I will do my best to help you, bearing in mind that I have only been at this stuff for about 7 months, but have gathered some good equipment and resources along the way..... -----Original Message----- From: uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Don and Kathryn Mechling Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:47 PM To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association Subject: Re: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? Hi, My son got a dobsonian telescope for Christmas - we'd like to join you at the gravel pit.....where is the gravel pit?? thanks, Kathryn Mechling From: "Sean Humpherys" <seanh(a)morewebsales.com> Reply-To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association <uvaa(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:37:13 -0800 To: "Utah Valley Astronomy Association" <uvaa(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? Hello Fellow Gravel-Pitters, Since many of you are talking about a Friday trip to the gravel pit, I will come too. I have several newbie friends that will come with me. I live down here in Provo so the gravel pit is perfectly close for us. Sean Humpherys _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa

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RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit?
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Looks like there will be a contingency at both the Pit N Pole and the gravel pit - I am from Ogden so I will going to the gravel pit as that is closest for me. If Rich Tenney shows up then pretty much all your bases will be covered as far as getting some help with your Dob, if not, I will do my best to help you, bearing in mind that I have only been at this stuff for about 7 months, but have gathered some good equipment and resources along the way..... -----Original Message----- From: uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:uvaa-bounces+louis.griffin=hill.af.mil@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Don and Kathryn Mechling Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:47 PM To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association Subject: Re: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? Hi, My son got a dobsonian telescope for Christmas - we'd like to join you at the gravel pit.....where is the gravel pit?? thanks, Kathryn Mechling From: "Sean Humpherys" <seanh(a)morewebsales.com> Reply-To: Utah Valley Astronomy Association <uvaa(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:37:13 -0800 To: "Utah Valley Astronomy Association" <uvaa(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? Hello Fellow Gravel-Pitters, Since many of you are talking about a Friday trip to the gravel pit, I will come too. I have several newbie friends that will come with me. I live down here in Provo so the gravel pit is perfectly close for us. Sean Humpherys _______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa

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RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit?
by Lambert, Aaron 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I cannot go on Friday, and so was planning on going to the Saturday party. If it does not happen, though, I'm sure there will be more. I am a relative newbie (got my first telescope, an Orion 4.5 XT, last June) and am entirely self-taught. The Astronomical League observing programs have given me things to work towards, and I picked up the book Turn Left at Orion when I got my scope, which taught me the basics. I have a good handle on the constellations and have star-hopped my way to around 85 of the Messier objects so far. Mostly I am interested in learning about things like how to collimate (never had to yet thankfully), checking out other scopes to see what I like (since I'm thinking of upgrading), and meeting other people in the area with the same interest in and excitement for astronomy. I would also like to see how well the green lasers actually work since I thought they might help me point out stuff to my kids and scouts. I would have come to last Thursday's (it sounded like just what I wanted) but had a prior commitment. Anyway, I am very interested in some Utah County oriented things. Aaron Lambert -----Original Message----- From: John and Lisa Zeigler [mailto:john@johnstelescopes.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:57 PM To: 'Utah Valley Astronomy Association' Subject: RE: [UVAA] Gravel Pit? Was anyone still planning on going to the pit n' Pole on Saturday, or should we just do the gravel pit on Friday. It would be nice to get as big a group as possible at one or the other. Lisa Zeigler

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Re: [UVAA] Workshop site
by JOHN K LUNDWALL 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I'll be there. John Lundwall ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Gibson<mailto:jimgibson00@yahoo.com> To: UVAA List<mailto:uvaa@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:04 AM Subject: [UVAA] Workshop site David Trevino and Mary Kay Clark Thank you for your suggested moon watch sites. I did get a chance to check out the site David suggested. It is a great site. It has restrooms, no park lights other than in the parking lot and a good grassy area, and it is very easy to find. The draw backs may be the traffic on Geneva Rd, and a few trees near the street. I dont think those will be a big problems for a moon watch for a moon at about 8 12 days old and later. The park closes at 11PM. I red the park regulations and there is nothing we cant comply with. There is a replica of old Fort Provo there, a baseball diamond (no lights), and a pavilion with picnic tables. While I was in the area I checked out Utah Lake State Park. It is a fee area but otherwise has some possibilities. I drove out on the dike and looked around and I took a short jaunt to the Provo air port. Davids site is by far the best of what I saw. I went up Geneva Rd. to University Park Way and went West hoping to find something nice by the lake. Nothing there. I hope to check out Marys site before too long. Mary the Wasatch wont be a problem for us if we are looking at a moon in the first quarter; the first 2 weeks after new moon or so. The moon will be mostly in the west. Saturn is overhead, but Jupiter will be behind those beautiful mountains. I have two things in mind right now for the first couple of workshops. I thought we could do something on Collimation. Collimation is a process of aligning the optics of an optical system such as a telescope. Remember, a workshop is not a lecture, in a workshop everybody has to do something even if you dont have a telescope. When I say do something I mean everyone has to look through an open focuser, peer through a Cheshire Collimation Tool, adjust the secondary mirror, and twitle the knobs on the primary mirror. We will probably collimate by looking at the reflection of the secondary while slightly out of focus and peering at a bright star. Last of all we will use a laser collimation tool, which, by the way, is not a necessary to get good collimation. So, don't think you have to run out and buy one. The other thing I am thinking about doing is covering the very basics about volcanism the way I taught my 5 year old grandson with boiling chocolate pudding. The problem is, what do you do with the lefovers, I need to know how many people will be there to know how much pudding to make and how much ice-cream I need to cool it off. Sorry I have not found low carb chocolate pudding yet. Once we see the mechanics of volcanism we need a little demo on impact craters. I probably need a box of sand and a sling shot for that. Once we have these ideas in our heads we can look at the moon with new eyes and full stomachs. JG Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mailtag_us/*http://mail.yahoo.com> - More reliable, more storage, less spam_______________________________________________ UVAA mailing list UVAA(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uvaa

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Gravel Pit?
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Is anyone up for the gravel pit this Friday? Does anyone know the conditions at the pit?

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Moon Watch Sat Night
by Mary Kay Clark 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I live in Provo, and my first thought was Rock Canyon Park. It is close to the Provo Temple so it's easy to find. One negative however it is also next to the Eastern Wasatch. The last moonrise was around 10 or 11pm. MK

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