Just in case you all were curious about the pins, I managed to take some snapshots of the place where I was looking at acquiring 13 pinball machines from http://house.hardys.org/gallery/Warehouse In there is one picture of Dan Goooch's garage (where I acquired my BZ) I guess he knows a few of you. At least he mentioned a few of you by name ;) -- Interchangeable devices won't -- SNAFU Equations (JB's Scholastic Laws) n°4 Chris Hardy (chris@hardys.org or support@mission.net)