Just one more thing I learned about shipping today: BAX global charges a $50 "Oversize" fee for anything that exceeds 72 inches. ForwardAir did not charge extra for this last time I shipped a game, dunno about any other shippers. Sheesh, too many variables here. No wonder people liked JackRabbit. Sean McLachlan MIS Manager LithoFlexo grafics inc. 801.484.8503 -----Original Message----- From: utvgg-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utvgg-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sean McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:24 PM To: utvgg@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [UtVgG] Shipping games: Forward air and Danzas info FYI, Forwardair is now requiring games to be shipped in wooden crates. They won't let you just strap them to a pallet. Looks like the cost of shipping just went up, unless someone knows of a better shipper. In know we had a thread on this awhile back. Next time anybody ships a game, post the details, please. I argued the forward air guy into letting me ship it like it was, on a palette, but only because I remembered the name of the employee that told me I could do it that way. And he said "No more, and tell your friends". So plan on about $200 to ship a game with them. And that's after you build/pay someone to crate it. I did some legwork on Danzas. Here is what I found: All rates are for 5 day ground shipping. For packaging Danzas requires the "goods be packaged so as not to easily be damaged." I asked him, "What about a professional (or professional looking :)) strapped to a palette, multiple layers of cardboard and shrink wrapped type job?" He said that would be fine. But no "Wrapped in a blanket" type stuff. Shipping rates are 44 cents per lb. Insurance is 80 cents per 100 dollars declared value. Fuel surcharge is .025 cents per lb. So, to ship an Asteroids on a pallet, dimensions of 78"h X 24"w X 34"d, with a actual weight of about 370 lbs (game + packing), insured for $800 to Miami Florida costs $178.45. They charge whatever is heavier between Dimensional weight and actual weight. Dimensional weight = W X D X H / 250. If the customer wants it delivered to their house, there is residential fee of $7.50 / 100 lbs, or $14.80 in this example. Then add a liftgate service fee of $50, to get to $64.80. They will deliver about 20 miles for this fee. Further out costs more. And with Danzas, you have to have an account, although it seems any schmoe can set one up. Hope this helps the group with specifics, and if anyone can add info about other shippers, please do. Sean McLachlan MIS Manager LithoFlexo grafics inc. 801.484.8503 _______________________________________________ UtVgG mailing list UtVgG@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utvgg