Troy, If you do go the DOB route, I would suggest the following in addition to the other comments you have received:; 1)  Even if it means saving for another couple of months, buy one that has digital setting circles.   The price point difference is about $170 ($530-$360).   The digital setting circles will greatly simplify getting your scope on target, particularly in light polluted skies.  They will increase your enjoyment of the scope by much more than $170.   2) The price points on these DOBs are so low these days, it's not really worth searching out used equipment, especially through internet classified sites like Astromart, IMHO isn't worth the hassle unless someone has a local deal here in Utah (having read your post).  3) Internet retailing is fine but one of its negative consequences is that it has really begun to price squeeze the retailers out of business in terms of both inventory on head and the knowledge of staff.  Telescope sales are only a partial exception to this trend.  Bill Cowles is very knowledgable.  They have knowledge people at Clark but it's a hit and miss proposition.  You have to ask for someone who knows.  The floor staff generally are not knowledgable, only sell entertainment goodies, do not use and no nothing about telescopes.  The last time I was there (within the last month) they had cleared out all of their telescope accessories and only had the scopes on display.    4) For this class of scope, I recommend buying through a brick and mortar retailer.  I just bought a low-end scope over the internet from a reputable vendor, but had to return it.  Let me say that although the whole process of getting a return authorization, reboxing, reshipping through UPS and getting the replacement was a bothersome, unpleasant hassle.  It took two weeks to get a return authorization (one week to get an answer to my first email);  another week for them to mail me the return shipment UPS sticker.  Three weeks for UPS to the get the thing to the seller and for the seller to evaluate the claim and ship me a replacement.  For this class of scope, I would buy from a local brick and mortar guy.  If anything goes wrong, you can just drop it off and pick up a replacement on short order or just get your money back.  5) Plan to save up for an observing chair.  DOBs are low to the ground.  You can get a neck or back cramp pretty quick.  Clear Skies - Kurt