Saw this on KSL and thought it was very interesting . . . http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12079231&hl=9
Jay, I saw this as well and thought that we should offer to put on a star party for them. Rodger -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jay Eads Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:35 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Endeavor Elementary Saw this on KSL and thought it was very interesting . . . http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12079231&hl=9 _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Outstanding! Simply, outstanding!
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Saw this on KSL and thought it was very interesting . . .
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12079231&hl=9
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Wish they would have had a school like that when I was a kid! (wow that sounded old) ________________________________ From: Jay Eads <jayleads@gmail.com> To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 8:34:48 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Endeavor Elementary Saw this on KSL and thought it was very interesting . . . http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12079231&hl=9 _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
It would be a blast to design a school, or any other building with a concept like that. In school I designed a solar house that had more to do with the philosophical and astronomical significance of the sun than with the energy efficiency, and that was fun. The closest I've got in my career was to help design some of the elements at the Gallivan Center. We had planned a solar system model that would cover the whole state, with the sun (to scale, of course) located at the plaza, but that was one element we weren't able to include in the final design. As I recall we were going to place the relative position of Pluto just outside St. George and indicate the other planets at various places on I15 and I80. Maybe that project died because we didn't plan to show the sun on either Capitol Hill or Temple Square. And that reminds me of...never mind. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jay Eads Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:35 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Endeavor Elementary Saw this on KSL and thought it was very interesting . . . http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=12079231&hl=9 _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
There's a spit-wad magnet, if I've ever seen one. Incoming meteor! "Splat!"
I posted this subject on a digital astrophotography forum I frequent. Got a lot of interesting replies if anyone is interested in reading it. Still an active topic. http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4005163/pag... Cheers, David
Interesting stuff - thanks for the link. My pre-architecture design classes and later design studios in graduate school included a lot of color studies. I'm not convinced that anyone who commented in that forum has the correct answer. The science, art, psychology and philosophy of color are both subjective AND objective - too complex for definitive statements one way or the other. I favor the artistic and philosophical attributes of color, but that is probably more a product of my training. If I were a physical scientist my interests and opinions would certainly be different. Regarding astrophotography, if we only produced images that are true to what we see, almost all objects would appear white, with very little color. I like to try to produce wide-field images that are true to what my eyes see, or at least my memory of the scene. But I think that deep sky images are more interesting in the colors that film or digital media record. When digital astrophotography was still very new, I had many objections to all of the Photoshop processing necessary to produce any kind of image, particularly in color. I felt it was all too "fake." As it has become necessary for me to use digital photography for work I have become much more comfortable with it. If you think about it, photography is really very abstract, anyway. I'm not as bothered anymore about the choices that we have to make in image processing, to enhance colors, contrast, or anything that we might do to create a pleasing image. BTW, I have noticed that I don't see as much color in low surface brightness objects as I did 20 years ago. I can still see some pinks and blues in objects such as M8 and M42, and I still see OIII emissions as very blue-green, such as NGC 6543. But astrophotos of these objects that approximate what I can see would probably not be very interesting. Might be an interesting exercise, though. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:34 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Color in space continuation I posted this subject on a digital astrophotography forum I frequent. Got a lot of interesting replies if anyone is interested in reading it. Still an active topic. http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4005163/pag e/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1 Cheers, David _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
I once knew a jazz musician who loved to drive very fast out to Brown's canyon gravel quarry and then look for hours through his C11 at the bright nebulae in the Milky way. He loved the subtle colors that characterized each of the objects even though he had visited them all many times. He sneared at astrophotography, called it "clown makeup". DT --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Color in space continuation To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:40 PM Interesting stuff - thanks for the link. My pre-architecture design classes and later design studios in graduate school included a lot of color studies. I'm not convinced that anyone who commented in that forum has the correct answer. The science, art, psychology and philosophy of color are both subjective AND objective - too complex for definitive statements one way or the other. I favor the artistic and philosophical attributes of color, but that is probably more a product of my training. If I were a physical scientist my interests and opinions would certainly be different. Regarding astrophotography, if we only produced images that are true to what we see, almost all objects would appear white, with very little color. I like to try to produce wide-field images that are true to what my eyes see, or at least my memory of the scene. But I think that deep sky images are more interesting in the colors that film or digital media record.
When digital astrophotography was still very new, I had many objections to all of the Photoshop processing necessary to produce any kind of image, particularly in color. I felt it was all too "fake." As it has become necessary for me to use digital photography for work I have become much more comfortable with it. If you think about it, photography is really very abstract, anyway. I'm not as bothered anymore about the choices that we have to make in image processing, to enhance colors, contrast, or anything that we might do to create a pleasing image.
BTW, I have noticed that I don't see as much color in low surface brightness objects as I did 20 years ago. I can still see some pinks and blues in objects such as M8 and M42, and I still see OIII emissions as very blue-green, such as NGC 6543. But astrophotos of these objects that approximate what I can see would probably not be very interesting. Might be an interesting exercise, though.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:34 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Color in space continuation
I posted this subject on a digital astrophotography forum I frequent. Got a lot of interesting replies if anyone is interested in reading it. Still an active topic.
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4005163/pag e/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1
Cheers,
David
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Just look at different peoples description of color contrast double stars, it is very subjective. Of course, there will always be someone who thinks only they have the true objective eye.
Interesting stuff - thanks for the link. My pre-architecture design
classes and later design studios in graduate school included a lot of color studies. I'm not convinced that anyone who commented in that forum has the correct answer. The science, art, psychology and philosophy of color are both subjective AND objective - too complex for definitive statements one way or the other. I favor the artistic and philosophical attributes of color, but that is probably more a product of my training. If I were a physical scientist my interests and opinions would certainly be different. Regarding astrophotography, if we only produced images that are true to what we see, almost all objects would appear white, with very little color. I like to try to produce wide-field images that are true to what my eyes see, or at least my memory of the scene. But I think that deep sky images are more interesting in the colors that film or digital media record.
When digital astrophotography was still very new, I had many objections to all of the Photoshop processing necessary to produce any kind of image, particularly in color. I felt it was all too "fake." As it has become necessary for me to use digital photography for work I have become much more comfortable with it. If you think about it, photography is really very abstract, anyway. I'm not as bothered anymore about the choices that we have to make in image processing, to enhance colors, contrast, or anything that we might do to create a pleasing image.
BTW, I have noticed that I don't see as much color in low surface brightness objects as I did 20 years ago. I can still see some pinks and blues in objects such as M8 and M42, and I still see OIII emissions as very blue-green, such as NGC 6543. But astrophotos of these objects that approximate what I can see would probably not be very interesting. Might be an interesting exercise, though.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:34 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Color in space continuation
I posted this subject on a digital astrophotography forum I frequent. Got a lot of interesting replies if anyone is interested in reading it. Still an active topic.
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4005163/pag e/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1
Cheers,
David
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