Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars because, after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes. ------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
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I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about how everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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Joe, I actually agree. Chuck, I wouldn't say, Cosmos is "so much more," I would say, it is so much less. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars because, after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about how everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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Joe, every one of the episodes were connected with astronomy. But if you stopped watching it, how do you know? I'm reall sorry you guys were expecting something else. If you had read some of Tyson's writing for the general public, or Druyan's, or Sagan's, for that matter, you might not have expected something that some of us, anyway, were not. I knew it would be heavy on social commentary and the history of certain discoveries related to astronomy, as was Sagan's version. And properly so, in my opinion. Neither COSMOS 1 or 2 were intended to be classical astronomy lessons. The whole point then, and now, is humanity's relationship with the cosmos. Not a discussion of the H-R diagram, or galactic evolution, or whatever. You guys are both good friends of mine, but you weren't the target audience, apparently. Better luck next time. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
Joe, I actually agree.
Chuck, I wouldn't say, Cosmos is "so much more," I would say, it is so much less.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars
because,
after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about
how
everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
Joe, you are a writer and science journalist. I would ask you to consider writing a script that would fulfill your expectations for such a series. Let me see what would have pleased you (and Siegfried). Or at least flesh out an outline, since it is a massive project.
My 2 cents here: Seth MacFarlane said his goal was to reach an audience that _wasn't_ already enthusiastic about astronomy. His and Tyson's mission is to communicate the human connections to science, and science's impact on society. MacFarlane chose FOX because 1) he has a lot of pull with them, and 2) it's exactly the network/timeslot he needed to make the biggest impact on the general public. I hate the commercials. I don't like the animations. I wish there was more "meat." But that's OK - I'm not the intended audience. Cosmos' goal is to communicate to the widest possible audience the historical and contemporary significance of science to our society. It's succeeding; the show totally dominates the ratings on Sunday nights. Seth -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 11:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cosmos2 Joe, you are a writer and science journalist. I would ask you to consider writing a script that would fulfill your expectations for such a series. Let me see what would have pleased you (and Siegfried). Or at least flesh out an outline, since it is a massive project. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
You're right Chuck, we weren't the target audience and that's why I stopped watching after the first episode. I caught snippets of another episode somewhere. I very much prefer something on the scale of "The Universe" production. That was aimed at us and it hit a home run with me. I'm with Joe on the global warming. Tyson didn't need to get into that. The entire climate change 'science' has been corrupted to support certain political goals. The aim was to produce evidence of human influence in global warming due to CO2 emissions. There has been global cooling since 1998 but CO2 has continued to increase. Funny how a beautiful theory can be destroyed by inconvenient facts. None of the computer models forecast that. All of their models have failed. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe, every one of the episodes were connected with astronomy. But if you stopped watching it, how do you know?
I'm reall sorry you guys were expecting something else. If you had read some of Tyson's writing for the general public, or Druyan's, or Sagan's, for that matter, you might not have expected something that some of us, anyway, were not. I knew it would be heavy on social commentary and the history of certain discoveries related to astronomy, as was Sagan's version. And properly so, in my opinion.
Neither COSMOS 1 or 2 were intended to be classical astronomy lessons. The whole point then, and now, is humanity's relationship with the cosmos. Not a discussion of the H-R diagram, or galactic evolution, or whatever.
You guys are both good friends of mine, but you weren't the target audience, apparently.
Better luck next time.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Siegfried Jachmann < siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
Joe, I actually agree.
Chuck, I wouldn't say, Cosmos is "so much more," I would say, it is so much less.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars
because,
after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about
how
everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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I'm going to start making popcorn. Anyone else want some? Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
You're right Chuck, we weren't the target audience and that's why I stopped watching after the first episode. I caught snippets of another episode somewhere. I very much prefer something on the scale of "The Universe" production. That was aimed at us and it hit a home run with me.
I'm with Joe on the global warming. Tyson didn't need to get into that. The entire climate change 'science' has been corrupted to support certain political goals. The aim was to produce evidence of human influence in global warming due to CO2 emissions. There has been global cooling since 1998 but CO2 has continued to increase. Funny how a beautiful theory can be destroyed by inconvenient facts. None of the computer models forecast that.. All of their models have failed.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe, every one of the episodes were connected with astronomy. But if you stopped watching it, how do you know?
I'm reall sorry you guys were expecting something else. If you had read some of Tyson's writing for the general public, or Druyan's, or Sagan's, for that matter, you might not have expected something that some of us, anyway, were not. I knew it would be heavy on social commentary and the history of certain discoveries related to astronomy, as was Sagan's version. And properly so, in my opinion.
Neither COSMOS 1 or 2 were intended to be classical astronomy lessons. The whole point then, and now, is humanity's relationship with the cosmos. Not a discussion of the H-R diagram, or galactic evolution, or whatever.
You guys are both good friends of mine, but you weren't the target audience, apparently.
Better luck next time.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Siegfried Jachmann < siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
Joe, I actually agree.
Chuck, I wouldn't say, Cosmos is "so much more," I would say, it is so much less.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars
because,
after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about
how
everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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Hi Chuck, The secondary was crooked because I had screwed in one of the adjustment bolts too far. I thought I could adjust it by fiddling with the bolts but it didn't work. Then I took the corrector plate off, took out the secondary mirror tube and adjusted the mirror so it was fairly even. Finally I made a collimation mask and took all out to the desert again. But I couldn't get the process working right and managed to get the mirror too lopsided again. Now I've ordered a second set of collimation knobs (one of the first set broke) and I'll try again. I am pretty sure it's something I can fix, but it's been most frustrating. Thanks, Joe On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:00 PM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> wrote: I'm going to start making popcorn. Anyone else want some? Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
You're right Chuck, we weren't the target audience and that's why I stopped watching after the first episode. I caught snippets of another episode somewhere. I very much prefer something on the scale of "The Universe" production. That was aimed at us and it hit a home run with me.
I'm with Joe on the global warming. Tyson didn't need to get into that. The entire climate change 'science' has been corrupted to support certain political goals. The aim was to produce evidence of human influence in global warming due to CO2 emissions. There has been global cooling since 1998 but CO2 has continued to increase. Funny how a beautiful theory can be destroyed by inconvenient facts. None of the computer models forecast that.. All of their models have failed.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe, every one of the episodes were connected with astronomy. But if you stopped watching it, how do you know?
I'm reall sorry you guys were expecting something else. If you had read some of Tyson's writing for the general public, or Druyan's, or Sagan's, for that matter, you might not have expected something that some of us, anyway, were not. I knew it would be heavy on social commentary and the history of certain discoveries related to astronomy, as was Sagan's version. And properly so, in my opinion.
Neither COSMOS 1 or 2 were intended to be classical astronomy lessons. The whole point then, and now, is humanity's relationship with the cosmos. Not a discussion of the H-R diagram, or galactic evolution, or whatever.
You guys are both good friends of mine, but you weren't the target audience, apparently.
Better luck next time.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Siegfried Jachmann < siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
Joe, I actually agree.
Chuck, I wouldn't say, Cosmos is "so much more," I would say, it is so much less.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars
because,
after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about
how
everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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Excellent Dan, Now, let's have some fun with this. Sent from my iPad
On Jun 3, 2014, at 16:59, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> wrote:
I'm going to start making popcorn. Anyone else want some?
Ok, but you need to bring it to a meeting of at least 100 popcorn lovers and if one or two of those people don't see the popcorn all will have to deny that it exists. Grins, patrick
Actually, the lead pollution topic was a secondary issue in this program. Patterson’s primary goal was to measure Earth’s age. At this time, Jim Peebles had roughed out an estimate for the age of the universe using Wilson and Penzias’ data on the CMB. Earth’s age was still not determined with any accuracy because the data were not reliable. Why? Lead pollution. As you learned from the program the amount of lead humans were pumping into the environment was staggering. Left unchecked we would be in far worse shape, today. Especially, our children. There were two people of science instrumental in rallying against the ubiquitous use of lead….Clair Patterson and Herb Needleman. Needleman wasn’t even mentioned in the program if I recall, correctly. I think mentioning this chain of events was justified and historically relevant in a program of this nature. However, I’m no journalist. I’m just an aging bozo who sets up his telescope in the drive way and tries to stay out of the wife’s way. Sometimes, I watch TV. Dave On Jun 3, 2014, at 10:41, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yes we're all part of the cosmos, of course. That kind of goes without saying. But you could use that rationale to launch into any number of topics that have little connection to the cosmos or astronomy. We could segue into a bIg episode on auto manufacturing or the Israeli wars because, after all, they are part of the cosmic cosmos. It gets rediculous. This is one planet in the indescribably huge universe. I don't want to hear about fights over lead pollution on this one part of the cosmos in the supposed context of finding out about new research into the universe. A large portion of the series is padding, silly history animated cartoons and p.c. pontificating. The producers sold it as 12 episodes, so had to drag it out that long. If they didn't have enough meaty scientific material to fill 12 they should have reduced the number of episodes.
------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 7:08 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote:
Joan, you hit the nail on the head.
COSMOS (both the original and this one) was never intended to be merely a video astronomy course. Those desiring just black holes and galaxies are bound to be disappointed. It is so much more.
The message then, as now, is that we are a part of the universe. As Carl Sagan said, we are here so the universe can know itself. We are as much a part of space and time as a billion-solar-mass black hole, or an icy ring orbiting a distant planet. Life is one of the more interesting properties of hydrogen, if you give it enough time and the right conditions. To fully appreciate the universe and our place in it, we have to shed old habits such as greed, ignorance and intolerance of new, sometimes uncomfortable ideas. The histories NdGT has presented give context to where we stand today on the topics, and how we got there. How inspired individuals have made a difference in how we see the universe, and our place in it, often to their own personal detriment. Good stuff.
I plan to purchase the DVDs, will keep them next to COSMOS v1.0 Insurance against inadvertantly wiping them from the DVR (and no commercials to have to zap through!).
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM, CenturyLink Customer <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I hope it has reached a wider audience and left many thinking about how everything fits together from the atom to a galaxy and our precious blue white piece of cosmic dust so important to the sentient life residing on it.
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