Sky & Telescope agrees with many of you: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Too-Much-Ado-About-Daylight-Saving-Time-... My reasons for liking it have nothing to do with astronomy. Hey, there are still the same number of hours of darkness, what's the big deal? Many (most) of us have occassions during the year when we go to sleep an hour or more later than, or an hour or more earlier than, our normal times. Again, what's the big deal? I often have to go to bed well before the sun goes down in summer, but I wear a sleep mask year-round, so that doesn't bother me either. As I said, I like it so I have time for outdoor activities that must come after a work day and require light. DST definitely benefits those who like to work and play with growing things and the soil. If you hate changing the clocks twice a year, get an atomic one that changes itself AND shows UT. Or let's keep DST year-round. 4:50 PM sunsets in winter is bogus. ;-) (gets down off soapbox...for now...)
The number of car accidents, heart attacks, and suicides go up when we change the clocks. Pick one and stick with it!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2012/03/12/daylight-saving-time-... Sky & Telescope agrees with many of you:
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Too-Much-Ado-About-Daylight-Saving-Time-...
My reasons for liking it have nothing to do with astronomy. Hey, there are still the same number of hours of darkness, what's the big deal? Many (most) of us have occassions during the year when we go to sleep an hour or more later than, or an hour or more earlier than, our normal times. Again, what's the big deal?
I often have to go to bed well before the sun goes down in summer, but I wear a sleep mask year-round, so that doesn't bother me either.
As I said, I like it so I have time for outdoor activities that must come after a work day and require light. DST definitely benefits those who like to work and play with growing things and the soil.
If you hate changing the clocks twice a year, get an atomic one that changes itself AND shows UT. Or let's keep DST year-round. 4:50 PM sunsets in winter is bogus. ;-)
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I amused how adults can get so bothered by what is essentiallly 3rd grade arithmetic. It's OK for people to be pushed out of their technical comfort zones two times a year. The whining and complaining should be ignored. I wonder about those who can't make the change themselves. Should they be driving cars and voting? I've always dismissed the Arizona thing as "that's where the old people live, they don't handle change very well." DT From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Daylight Savings Time Sky & Telescope agrees with many of you: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Too-Much-Ado-About-Daylight-Saving-Time-... My reasons for liking it have nothing to do with astronomy. Hey, there are still the same number of hours of darkness, what's the big deal? Many (most) of us have occassions during the year when we go to sleep an hour or more later than, or an hour or more earlier than, our normal times. Again, what's the big deal? I often have to go to bed well before the sun goes down in summer, but I wear a sleep mask year-round, so that doesn't bother me either. As I said, I like it so I have time for outdoor activities that must come after a work day and require light. DST definitely benefits those who like to work and play with growing things and the soil. If you hate changing the clocks twice a year, get an atomic one that changes itself AND shows UT. Or let's keep DST year-round. 4:50 PM sunsets in winter is bogus. ;-) (gets down off soapbox...for now...) _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health. -A
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it. It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :) As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey! Clear skies, patrick Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:41, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
Right! Before I retired it was really tough on me to change times, especially in the days when I had to get to work at 6:30 a.m. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Daylight Savings Time Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it. It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :) As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey! Clear skies, patrick Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:41, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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I start work at 6. Up at 4 am. Time change is no problem. Be glad you're not a truck driver or professional pilot. Time changes are a daily occurrence for them. On Mar 8, 2013 9:38 PM, "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
Right! Before I retired it was really tough on me to change times, especially in the days when I had to get to work at 6:30 a.m. -- Joe
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Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
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The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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Some of us aren't as hardy as you, Chuck. It was a nightmare when I had to switch over and get up an hour earlier. See you at L&O if I can get up in time! -- Joe ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Daylight Savings Time I start work at 6. Up at 4 am. Time change is no problem. Be glad you're not a truck driver or professional pilot. Time changes are a daily occurrence for them. On Mar 8, 2013 9:38 PM, "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
Right! Before I retired it was really tough on me to change times, especially in the days when I had to get to work at 6:30 a.m. -- Joe
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Daylight Savings Time
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
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The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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I don't think I'm hardier than most, Joe. In fact up until a couple of years ago, getting up early was agony. It seems that as I age, I require less and less sleep to feel fully refreshed. I used to work with an elderly fellow (70) who would rise at 3:00 AM every day, even on his days off, without an alarm clock. I have today off work yet still woke up at 4:00 AM sans alarm. I turn 55 this year, so I guess that means I'm entering "senior" status. (Kicking and screaming). On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
Some of us aren't as hardy as you, Chuck. It was a nightmare when I had to switch over and get up an hour earlier. See you at L&O if I can get up in time! -- Joe
Today's issue of the Tribune has a piece on DST. I was going to post a comment but they've already got nearly 200 and I don't know that anyone would read through them all. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/55968011-79/daylight-saving-dst-http.html... Opening my observatory now. Here's hoping the comet puts on an appearance. patrick
The transparency appears to be excellent tonight, Patrick. Fortunately lake stink doesn't affect seeing! It's bad in WV tonight. Good luck!
Actually, the time change for me has everything to do with astronomy. Well, observing at least. I get up so early in the morning for work that I have to go to bed around 20:30 every night. In the winter months I can get a good couple of hours in before I have to turn in. As it gets later in the year, I may get an hour observing- or imaging-time in the evening before it’s time to wrap it up. This is the case, now. However, with the time change on Sunday, my evening observing is over. It won’t get dark enough to observe until I go to bed. On the weekends (when I can sleep in until 05:00) this means to get any observing time at all I have to get up at my normal weekday time (02:45-03:00) and observe until it’s time for me to go to work. That will be my routine starting Sunday. When I’m off, I don’t care either way about the time change. I do start to get tired about 22:00 because I’m so used to the early-rise, early-to-bed routine. Oh, just to clue in Ben Franklin, that routine makes you sick, poor and stupid. Hey, I’m not complaining. I do have work. Thankfully, it requires little brain power. Now, if I could just say the same for imaging. Sorry for the crappy weather. I bought a new camera. The weather is supposed to be good tomorrow night and I’ve got a couple of days off. I’ll post pictures if they turn out. If not, I’ll make up some excuse. Dave On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
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The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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I do find it surprising that on a astronomy forum people seem glad to lose an hour of night. For working folks it does cut into star gazing time.
Actually, the time change for me has everything to do with astronomy.
Well, observing at least. I get up so early in the morning for work that I have to go to bed around 20:30 every night. In the winter months I can get a good couple of hours in before I have to turn in. As it gets later in the year, I may get an hour observing- or imaging-time in the evening before its time to wrap it up. This is the case, now. However, with the time change on Sunday, my evening observing is over. It wont get dark enough to observe until I go to bed. On the weekends (when I can sleep in until 05:00) this means to get any observing time at all I have to get up at my normal weekday time (02:45-03:00) and observe until its time for me to go to work. That will be my routine starting Sunday. When Im off, I dont care either way about the time change. I do start to get tired about 22:00 because Im so used to the early-rise, early-to-bed routine. Oh, just to clue in Ben Franklin, that routine makes you sick, poor and stupid. Hey, Im not complaining. I do have work. Thankfully, it requires little brain power. Now, if I could just say the same for imaging. Sorry for the crappy weather. I bought a new camera. The weather is supposed to be good tomorrow night and Ive got a couple of days off. Ill post pictures if they turn out. If not, Ill make up some excuse.
Dave On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
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The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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While interested in astronomy very much, my leisure time doesn't revolve around observing. It's one of many interests. I see the extended daylight as an overall positive, not lost opportunity. On Mar 9, 2013 9:42 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I do find it surprising that on a astronomy forum people seem glad to lose an hour of night. For working folks it does cut into star gazing time.
Actually, the time change for me has everything to do with astronomy.
Well, observing at least. I get up so early in the morning for work that I have to go to bed around 20:30 every night. In the winter months I can get a good couple of hours in before I have to turn in. As it gets later in the year, I may get an hour observing- or imaging-time in the evening before it’s time to wrap it up. This is the case, now. However, with the time change on Sunday, my evening observing is over. It won’t get dark enough to observe until I go to bed. On the weekends (when I can sleep in until 05:00) this means to get any observing time at all I have to get up at my normal weekday time (02:45-03:00) and observe until it’s time for me to go to work. That will be my routine starting Sunday. When I’m off, I don’t care either way about the time change. I do start to get tired about 22:00 because I’m so used to the early-rise, early-to-bed routine. Oh, just to clue in Ben Franklin, that routine makes you sick, poor and stupid. Hey, I’m not complaining. I do have work. Thankfully, it requires little brain power. Now, if I could just say the same for imaging. Sorry for the crappy weather. I bought a new camera. The weather is supposed to be good tomorrow night and I’ve got a couple of days off. I’ll post pictures if they turn out. If not, I’ll make up some excuse.
Dave On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
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The issue for people is not a lack of arithmetic skills or even age. It has to do with a change in body rhythms. Studies show it is difficult to adjust ones' internal clocks and compromises immune systems. Think about studies done on people who have to adjust to different shift work and the damage that does to ones' health.
-A
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Patrick, my dad was a cattle rancher, and I milked cows (by hand). He said the cows did not understand DST. He solved the problem in his usual fashion. We lived just West of the Pacific/Mountain time zones, so, when Oregon went on DST, he went on MST, and just left the clocks alone. And, BTW, I believe it is Oy Vey.... or, just simply Oy. Depends upon just how vexed you are. 73 On 3/8/2013 7:42 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
Agreed, Ann. The S&T article Chuck posted says it all. All this switching costs money, wastes energy and makes people sick. Lets just pick one time and stick with it.
It seems like with so many of our state legislators wanting to "stick it to the feds" that they'd want to pull Utah off of DST just to spite them. But no such luck. Hmmm, maybe if we started a rumor that extra sunlight in the evening is bad for guns, DST would be banned in Utah immediately. :)
As for clocks changing themselves, make sure you get one that was made recently. I've got one I bought a year or so ago and it diligently changes the time when we used to change. So now I have to change it 4 times a year. Oh Vey!
Clear skies,
patrick
When I was a kid I remember my parents telling me that changing the clock back in the fall had something to do with kids not walking to school in darkness in the morning. I never hear that story anymore. And I don't think kids walk anywhere anymore, anyway.
Changing school hours would be simple matter.
When I was a kid I remember my parents telling me that changing the clock
back in the fall had something to do with kids not walking to school in darkness in the morning. I never hear that story anymore. And I don't think kids walk anywhere anymore, anyway. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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Erik, I just told you what my parents told me, I didn't care to get involved in a debate with them and I'm not now, at least one based on ecconomic reasons or Big Brother wathcfullness (what will they blame the heart attacks on if the clocks don't change?) I can tell you are dead-set against DST. I love it, as I said before, for the extra daylight during my waking hours. I was a lab tech in a dark room for 5 years in the early '80's. During winter I'd arrive at work in the dark, work in the dark all day, and go home in the dark. It was utterly depressing. The only sunlight I'd see is if I had time to go out for lunch. And we don't get direct sunlight during the noon hour very often in winter. At least it was light. It sucked. Having the sun go down at 6 in December instead of 5 would have raised my spirits considerably. I can offer no ecconomic reason to stay on DST. I just like late evenings with natural illumination, for different reasons depending on the season. Makes me happy. That's justification enough, for me. If I had enough money, I'd quit my job and set my clocks to whatever time suited me. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Changing school hours would be simple matter.
When I was a kid I remember my parents telling me that changing the clock
back in the fall had something to do with kids not walking to school in darkness in the morning. I never hear that story anymore. And I don't think kids walk anywhere anymore, anyway. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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I've found it does not matter what time you set your clocks for, as long as everyone else operates on DST it still affects you. I have heard parents like DST for their school children.
Erik, I just told you what my parents told me, I didn't care to get
involved in a debate with them and I'm not now, at least one based on ecconomic reasons or Big Brother wathcfullness (what will they blame the heart attacks on if the clocks don't change?) I can tell you are dead-set against DST. I love it, as I said before, for the extra daylight during my waking hours.
I was a lab tech in a dark room for 5 years in the early '80's. During winter I'd arrive at work in the dark, work in the dark all day, and go home in the dark. It was utterly depressing. The only sunlight I'd see is if I had time to go out for lunch. And we don't get direct sunlight during the noon hour very often in winter. At least it was light.
It sucked. Having the sun go down at 6 in December instead of 5 would have raised my spirits considerably. I can offer no ecconomic reason to stay on DST. I just like late evenings with natural illumination, for different reasons depending on the season. Makes me happy. That's justification enough, for me.
If I had enough money, I'd quit my job and set my clocks to whatever time suited me.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Changing school hours would be simple matter.
When I was a kid I remember my parents telling me that changing the clock
back in the fall had something to do with kids not walking to school in darkness in the morning. I never hear that story anymore. And I don't think kids walk anywhere anymore, anyway. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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I don't know why parents like DST. I student on his way to high school this morning was hit in the semi-darkness. -A
I can't type this morning. Should read, "A student.." I remember putting my kids to bed at 8:30 or 9:00 pm because they were tired (and I was tired) but they would fuss that they were the only ones in bed while their friends were outside playing. It brought back memories of me as a kid not being able to go to sleep with light outside. One of my favorite memories of being outside at night as a child was playing shadow tag with the neighborhood kids. -A On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
I don't know why parents like DST. I student on his way to high school this morning was hit in the semi-darkness.
-A
Being the oldest of 5, my parents pretty much let me do what I wanted once I hit 8 or 9, since they were too beat from dealing with the younger, squalling brats. In summer I stayed up late. It's one of the reasons I got into astronomy. I could go out back with my telescope and look at the stars, planets, the moon. If it was cloudy, I'd watch Johnny Carson on TV. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
One of my favorite memories of being outside at night as a child was playing shadow tag with the neighborhood kids.
My post stated that my parent's comment was about changing the clocks BACK in the fall, not advancing them forward for DST. I've never heard any other comment about it since, until today, and that was in the '60's. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
I don't know why parents like DST. I student on his way to high school this morning was hit in the semi-darkness.
for me the extra hour of daylight meant suddenly driving home with the sun low on the horizon and in my eyes. bottom line: same number of hours it is light, with or without DST.
I don't know why parents like DST. I student on his way to high school
this morning was hit in the semi-darkness.
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You should have gotten a job north or south of home, then you wouldn't have had that problem. ;-) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
for me the extra hour of daylight meant suddenly driving home with the sun low on the horizon and in my eyes. bottom line: same number of hours it is light, with or without DST.
I recall a dairy farmer telling me once that if it's raining, the cows can't remember a time when it wasn't raining. And if the sun was shining, the cows couldn't remember a time when it wasn't shining. And if it was dark...you get the idea. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Patrick, my dad was a cattle rancher, and I milked cows (by hand). He said the cows did not understand DST.
of course to a farmer there are never enough hours of daylight.
I recall a dairy farmer telling me once that if it's raining, the cows
can't remember a time when it wasn't raining. And if the sun was shining, the cows couldn't remember a time when it wasn't shining. And if it was dark...you get the idea.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Patrick, my dad was a cattle rancher, and I milked cows (by hand). He said the cows did not understand DST.
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I have to say, I really liked getting up this morning to a beautiful starry sky. Saturn looked great. DST helps for morning astronomy, if nothing else. Dion ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Daylight Savings Time I recall a dairy farmer telling me once that if it's raining, the cows can't remember a time when it wasn't raining. And if the sun was shining, the cows couldn't remember a time when it wasn't shining. And if it was dark...you get the idea. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Patrick, my dad was a cattle rancher, and I milked cows (by hand). He said the cows did not understand DST.
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