http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330451136311&ssPageName=S... I'd love to have that baby in the back yard. And the price isn't bad, either.
Chuck I have a real nice 12.5" F6 OTA w/ rotating rings, 4" finder the mirror w/ ground by Dick Wallace (Palomar Obs.) it's a planet killer. I sold the Schaefer mount 2 years ago and hope to eventually have it up Haleakala I built it in the mid-80's last used it in 2004. The idea is to make it a truss mount equatorial for imaging, we just don't have a suitable mount yet OR a place to house it. BTW last night at the summit seeing 9+, 5mph, 12% humidity and 37º we left at 4:30 it was a GOOD night Aloha Rob
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287." The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet? Bob Taylor
Not yet, but I will plan to be out observing on the 23rd. :) I wouldn't want to miss it! Steve
From: Rob.Taylor@digis.net To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:07:54 -0600 Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mars E-mail
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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I was just thinking about that last night but I haven't received any "alerts" yet. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:08 PM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mars E-mail Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287." The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet? Bob Taylor _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
I've had a couple. Happily in each case it was from someone asking if it was true rather than assuming it was. Also sent messages to the local TV weather folks advising it's a hoax and linked to the 2006 S&T article on the subject. patrick On 20 Jul 2010, at 13:07, Robert Taylor wrote:
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
Interesting...I think this is the first year that I haven't gotten any. 'Course, now I've tempted fate... Dan On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
I've had a couple. Happily in each case it was from someone asking if it was true rather than assuming it was.
Also sent messages to the local TV weather folks advising it's a hoax and linked to the 2006 S&T article on the subject.
patrick
On 20 Jul 2010, at 13:07, Robert Taylor wrote:
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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But the fact is, Mars will ALWAYS be bigger than the moon .... hee hee --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> wrote: From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Mars E-mail To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:55 PM Interesting...I think this is the first year that I haven't gotten any. 'Course, now I've tempted fate... Dan On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
I've had a couple. Happily in each case it was from someone asking if it was true rather than assuming it was.
Also sent messages to the local TV weather folks advising it's a hoax and linked to the 2006 S&T article on the subject.
patrick
On 20 Jul 2010, at 13:07, Robert Taylor wrote:
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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Joe, How very clever, lol. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
But the fact is, Mars will ALWAYS be bigger than the moon .... hee hee
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> wrote:
From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Mars E-mail To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:55 PM
Interesting...I think this is the first year that I haven't gotten any.
'Course, now I've tempted fate...
Dan
On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
I've had a couple. Happily in each case it was from someone asking if it was true rather than assuming it was.
Also sent messages to the local TV weather folks advising it's a hoax and linked to the 2006 S&T article on the subject.
patrick
On 20 Jul 2010, at 13:07, Robert Taylor wrote:
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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So far, just one. It used to be that this e-mail would only surface a few months before we had an actual opposition with the red planet. This year is the first time I've seen it after opposition. Me thinks that in the future, it will now be sent whenever we get close to the month of August. --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Robert Taylor <Rob.Taylor@digis.net> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <Rob.Taylor@digis.net> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mars E-mail To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 1:07 PM Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287." The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet? Bob Taylor _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Well, it is the anniversary of the moon walk hoax!
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will
be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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Man on the moon, LMAO! ;o) On 7/20/10, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Well, it is the anniversary of the moon walk hoax!
Alright I just got my first one. Surprised it took so long. "Mars will
be as big as the Moon on August 23rd, we won't see it again until 2287."
The worst part is that came from some one I went to great length to explain it to last year. Anyone else get one yet?
Bob Taylor
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I have a 12.5-inch F5 Cave that I've been promising myself to restore for some time. Now I have something to aspire to. Nevertheless, this scope reminds me of the old joke about the axe that George Washington used to cut down the famous cherry tree. Some museum claims to have the original axe; however, the axe head has been replaced a couple of times and the handle has been broken and replaced numerous times. I'd never heard of the Telescope Blue Book before. I went to the website and found - nothing. Take a look: http://www.telescopebluebook.com/classifieds/cgi-bin/classified/classified.p l. I hope they'll list something soon. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:12 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330451136311&ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT I'd love to have that baby in the back yard. And the price isn't bad, either. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
So far, just one. It used to be that this e-mail would only surface a few months before we had an actual opposition with the red planet. This year is the first time I've seen it after opposition. Me thinks that in the future, it will now be sent whenever we get close to the month of August. --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote: From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 1:12 PM I have a 12.5-inch F5 Cave that I've been promising myself to restore for some time. Now I have something to aspire to. Nevertheless, this scope reminds me of the old joke about the axe that George Washington used to cut down the famous cherry tree. Some museum claims to have the original axe; however, the axe head has been replaced a couple of times and the handle has been broken and replaced numerous times. I'd never heard of the Telescope Blue Book before. I went to the website and found - nothing. Take a look: http://www.telescopebluebook.com/classifieds/cgi-bin/classified/classified.p l. I hope they'll list something soon. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:12 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330451136311&ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT I'd love to have that baby in the back yard. And the price isn't bad, either. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
I also seem to get it as August approaches, in other words the date is triggering it. The people who seem to be sending it have no idea what opposition is. Bob -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of M Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! So far, just one. It used to be that this e-mail would only surface a few months before we had an actual opposition with the red planet. This year is the first time I've seen it after opposition. Me thinks that in the future, it will now be sent whenever we get close to the month of August.
I just thought it a good job of restoration, and a great price for a classic Meade 12.5" on that heavy-duty equatorial. The details of the auction are secondary; YMMV. Think of the verbiage as just salesmanship. I've got a killer 12.5" F/5 mirror made some years ago, not part of a batch but as a "masterpiece". It will get mounted one day when all my other projects are done, LOL. I've got the heavy-duty Astrola mount that I've been trying to restore for years, Kim. The biggest flaw with the old Astrolas was the tiny RA drive gear diameter. And to retrofit a larger gear would mean it's no longer faithfully restored, but modified. This would make it less valuable to a collector, but more valuable to a practical astronomer, so price-wise is probably a wash. I'm just going to build the way I want to, and let my daughter deal with it after I'm dead. She'll have it on eBay before my body is cold! On 7/20/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I have a 12.5-inch F5 Cave that I've been promising myself to restore for some time. Now I have something to aspire to. Nevertheless, this scope reminds me of the old joke about the axe that George Washington used to cut down the famous cherry tree. Some museum claims to have the original axe; however, the axe head has been replaced a couple of times and the handle has been broken and replaced numerous times.
I'd never heard of the Telescope Blue Book before. I went to the website and found - nothing. Take a look: http://www.telescopebluebook.com/classifieds/cgi-bin/classified/classified.p l. I hope they'll list something soon.
I didn't mean to sound critical. I deal every day with historic buildings and antique furniture. There's always a trade-off. Depending on the circumstances I may lean toward the faithful restoration on one occasion, and then focus more on function on another. I've owned two 12.5-inch Cave Astrola scopes. The first was an F6 that I later sold and the second, that I still have, is the F5 "transportable" model. I would like to fully restore this scope. I acquired it without counterweights and I’m hoping to replace the makeshift weights that I made with weights that match the originals. I also did not get the hand controller with it but I would like to make one so that it is usable - I just lack the expertise. For now I can still use the RA drive. The F5 is unwieldy enough, but the F6 was unbelievably heavy. The pier alone was eight-inch standard steel pipe that weighed about 60 pounds. The F5 is more manageable, but still dang heavy. Both gave/give excellent images. My only complaint is the lighter mount for the F5 means excessive movement but I just live with it. What could one expect to pay for such a scope if it is fully restored? Kim A. Hyatt Architect P.O. Box 124 Mt. Pleasant, Utah 84647 Tel: 435.462.9207 Fax: 435.462.5013 Mobile: 801.631.5228 kimharch@cut.net Architectural Design ▪ Historic Preservation -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:27 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! I just thought it a good job of restoration, and a great price for a classic Meade 12.5" on that heavy-duty equatorial. The details of the auction are secondary; YMMV. Think of the verbiage as just salesmanship. I've got a killer 12.5" F/5 mirror made some years ago, not part of a batch but as a "masterpiece". It will get mounted one day when all my other projects are done, LOL. I've got the heavy-duty Astrola mount that I've been trying to restore for years, Kim. The biggest flaw with the old Astrolas was the tiny RA drive gear diameter. And to retrofit a larger gear would mean it's no longer faithfully restored, but modified. This would make it less valuable to a collector, but more valuable to a practical astronomer, so price-wise is probably a wash. I'm just going to build the way I want to, and let my daughter deal with it after I'm dead. She'll have it on eBay before my body is cold! On 7/20/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I have a 12.5-inch F5 Cave that I've been promising myself to restore for some time. Now I have something to aspire to. Nevertheless, this scope reminds me of the old joke about the axe that George Washington used to cut down the famous cherry tree. Some museum claims to have the original axe; however, the axe head has been replaced a couple of times and the handle has been broken and replaced numerous times.
I'd never heard of the Telescope Blue Book before. I went to the website and found - nothing. Take a look: http://www.telescopebluebook.com/classifieds/cgi-bin/classified/classified.p l. I hope they'll list something soon.
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How much does it weigh? I don't think I could stick it in the back of my Jeep .... Joe --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote: From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] What a beauty! To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:11 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330451136311&ssPageName=S... I'd love to have that baby in the back yard. And the price isn't bad, either. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Standards have changed over the years. Russell Porter used to say that the relationship of a telescope to it's mount, mass-wise, should be the same as that of the hands of a clock to it's works (old-time, mechanical). As a teenager, I would haul around an 8-inch f/7 on this same heavy-duty Astrola mount, with 1.5" steel shafts, in the back of my mom's station wagon. And I never thought twice about the weight. The scope broke-down into segments; I think the heaviest, the equatorial head itself sans counterweight, is something like 40 lbs. No big deal, really. Even today, with me on the wrong side of 50, I still don't mind dealing with a 50-lb. component once in a while. If I were out observing every other night, I'd definitely go for something lighter, like a SCT on a fork. Joe, that 12.5" Meade would definitely fit in a long-bed Jeep. I think Alpine Stringham still hauls around a "classic" Newtonian on one of those battleship mounts, once in a while. But as I mentioned, if I had one myself, it would be permanently mounted in a back yard observatory. On 7/20/10, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
How much does it weigh? I don't think I could stick it in the back of my Jeep .... Joe
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