Ok, first attempts have not worked. May have found the problem so trying once more before bugging the admins... +++++ Needing to change my email address (again, and hopefully for the last time) so figured I'd resubscribe to the list and try it out here. So if you are reading this it must have worked. :) But while I'm here, for you telescope builders out there, I have a piece of 8" sontube about 4' ong I'd like to give away. I could have it at either of this weekend's star parties so it could be picked up there. Or it could be picked up at my place in near SPOC. Any takers? patrick 4099wiggins@gmail.com