Celestron is now offering their name on the Bear/Oberwerk/Galileo clone. In the "SkyMaster" series, model 71009, 15x70mm, with a suggested mail-order price of $89. The 25x100mm binocular (still) sold by Apogee is also now a Celestron product. Model 71017 @$349. www.celestron.com Apogee still has their "house" 25x100mm on-sale for $249. Save a hundred bucks over Celestron's price if you hurry. I've only had mine out a few times on a tripod so-far, and in less than ideal conditions, but the views have been rewarding. First time I've noticed M-57 as a distinct ring in a binocular. www.apogeeinc.com C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com