Anybody see any Quadrantids? I looked for about an hour this morning, through a thin fog layer (though I could still see to 3rd magnitude) with no luck. This shower is typically very productive, but most members are on the fainter side.
I thought about the Quadrantids as I drove to work this morning - minus 11F on the plateau. Not too sorry I missed them. As I recall, the Quadrantids are generally faint and fast, not the best for third-quarter moon viewing. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:34 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids Anybody see any Quadrantids? I looked for about an hour this morning, through a thin fog layer (though I could still see to 3rd magnitude) with no luck. This shower is typically very productive, but most members are on the fainter side.
It was 7F at my house this morning Kim, a heat wave lol. Yep, they are fast and faint, but generally productive. Since I'm up early anyway, I usually look at the sky in the early morning. In my insulated overalls, I'm toasty warm. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I thought about the Quadrantids as I drove to work this morning - minus 11F on the plateau. Not too sorry I missed them. As I recall, the Quadrantids are generally faint and fast, not the best for third-quarter moon viewing.
One of the crazier astronomy outings my family and I have enjoyed was a trip to Little Mountain in about 1990 to watch the Quadrantids. We took a large tarp, foam pads, sleeping bags and quilts and laid on top of the snow. It was about plus 10F, but the kids were warm enough to even fall asleep. I remember something like 60 or so at the peak ZHR. We observed from around 1:00 to 3:00. A memorable night for all of us. It is genuinely cold at Bryce Canyon now but it has warmed up to about plus 10F. I'm supposed to help with telescopes Saturday but I'm sort of hoping that no one shows up. I may need to break out my high altitude mountaineering gear just to be warm. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:13 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids It was 7F at my house this morning Kim, a heat wave lol. Yep, they are fast and faint, but generally productive. Since I'm up early anyway, I usually look at the sky in the early morning. In my insulated overalls, I'm toasty warm. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I thought about the Quadrantids as I drove to work this morning - minus 11F on the plateau. Not too sorry I missed them. As I recall, the Quadrantids are generally faint and fast, not the best for third-quarter moon viewing.
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When Patrick and I were frequenting "Little Stonehenge" out by Grantsville in the mid-70's and dead of winter, he had a surplus Air Force heated flight suit that he powered with his car battery! As I recall, it was full-body- except for the rump... I think he told me that was because the seats were heated in the aircraft. It seems to me that zero degrees wasn't nearly as cold when I was 16, as it is in my '50's. Ya know? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
One of the crazier astronomy outings my family and I have enjoyed was a trip to Little Mountain in about 1990 to watch the Quadrantids. We took a large tarp, foam pads, sleeping bags and quilts and laid on top of the snow. It was about plus 10F, but the kids were warm enough to even fall asleep. I remember something like 60 or so at the peak ZHR. We observed from around 1:00 to 3:00. A memorable night for all of us.
My stepmother was given a WWII Japanese heated flying suit. She would get cold elk hunting and a friend got it for her. I don't remember a lot about it: cloth was a canvas type material. Lining was rabbit fur throughout. Never got the heating system to work as it was like some weird DC voltage. I really cannot remember the rating. Guess I could look up the specs for the zero or the betty. I do know it was not 32 VDC, as we had a light plant of that voltage. I still did my homework by mantle lamp, as it was brighter. Oh yeah, Mom said she stayed very warm without the heater. 73 On 1/3/2013 1:06 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
When Patrick and I were frequenting "Little Stonehenge" out by Grantsville in the mid-70's and dead of winter, he had a surplus Air Force heated flight suit that he powered with his car battery! As I recall, it was full-body- except for the rump... I think he told me that was because the seats were heated in the aircraft.
Larry, was the light plant a Lister, by any chance? Patrick should be weighing-in here soon and he can tell us the suit voltage. I'm thinking that his deisel Benz might be a 24 volt system? That's what his primary ride was back in those days. And BTW, it's still in the same pristine condition that it was back then. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
I do know it was not 32 VDC, as we had a light plant of that voltage.
My first VW Beetle had a 6-volt electrical system. But in those days I could also fill the gas tank for under two bucks. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:47 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids Larry, was the light plant a Lister, by any chance? Patrick should be weighing-in here soon and he can tell us the suit voltage. I'm thinking that his deisel Benz might be a 24 volt system? That's what his primary ride was back in those days. And BTW, it's still in the same pristine condition that it was back then.
Chuck, I had a Ghia when Carol & I got married. Needed a 2nd car, so (no kids yet) bought a MG. Do not remember the battery polarity. The car I wanted, but never got, was an AustinHealy 3000. 73 On 1/3/2013 4:21 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
I remember those 6V Beetles. I also remember British cars with positive ground systems.
On 03 Jan 2013, at 14:46, Chuck Hards wrote:
Patrick should be weighing-in here soon and he can tell us the suit voltage.
They were WWII vintage bomber suits. I had a pile of them and ended up donating them to the Hill AFB museum. They were 28VDC. They came with gloves, boots and a hood that could be plugged into the suit.
I'm thinking that his deisel Benz might be a 24 volt system?
No, she's 12VDC so the suit never did heat up as much as it could.
That's what his primary ride was back in those days. And BTW, it's still in the same pristine condition that it was back then.
Danke! And she just had here 40th birthday in May. Needless to say she no longer goes out of the house unless the skies are clear and the roads are clear and dry. Mercedes über alles! patrick
I would love to have one of those suits! Anyone else from the SLC area remember Allied Army and Navy Surplus that used to be on State Street and about 2nd South (I think)? I loved that store - bought lots of cool stuff there. I just barely parted with my wood and rawhide snowshoes that I bought there in 1972 when I couldn't afford downhill skiing anymore. They gave me hours and days of pleasure, along with the WW2 leather flying helmet for to keep my head warm that I also bought there. Alas, the helmet was stolen many years ago, but I still have the goggles that came with it. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Wiggins Patrick Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:30 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids On 03 Jan 2013, at 14:46, Chuck Hards wrote:
Patrick should be weighing-in here soon and he can tell us the suit voltage.
They were WWII vintage bomber suits. I had a pile of them and ended up donating them to the Hill AFB museum. They were 28VDC. They came with gloves, boots and a hood that could be plugged into the suit.
I'm thinking that his deisel Benz might be a 24 volt system?
No, she's 12VDC so the suit never did heat up as much as it could.
That's what his primary ride was back in those days. And BTW, it's still in the same pristine condition that it was back then.
Danke! And she just had here 40th birthday in May. Needless to say she no longer goes out of the house unless the skies are clear and the roads are clear and dry. Mercedes über alles! patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
I loved that place, too. Bought quite a bit of clothing and camping-related stuff there, including a WWII surplus bayonnet. It was the start of my blade collection and served as a camping knife for many years. Wasn't it between 2nd south and 3rd south? A couple of doors down from Wolfs, next to Gallensons? I think the Astronaut Lounge was on the corner of 2nd south, across the street from Dee's. I miss State Street in the '70's. Remember Tape Head? 665 south State. "Under the sign of the mouse" (later "Super-Mouse). On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I would love to have one of those suits! Anyone else from the SLC area remember Allied Army and Navy Surplus that used to be on State Street and about 2nd South (I think)?
Yup - that's the place. I guess it was between 2nd and 3rd south. There was also an army/navy uniform place on State Street next to Wolf's that was my favorite source for bell bottom jeans/fatigues. I also used to wear a campaign hat that I bought there. If I tucked my hair up under it I almost looked like a young marine DI. My old hat collection was all stolen many years ago, so I lost that one, too. Now I get to wear the Park Service campaign-style hat for real. I vaguely remember the Astronaut Lounge. I was more familiar with My Wife's Place on 7th East - later it became My Ex-wife's Place. (I never did have a legal drink there.) It was just kitty-corner from my job at Trolley Square so that's where we went sometimes after work. Bought my first hash pipe at Tape Head. Hippy wanna-be. Now I'm telling secrets. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids I loved that place, too. Bought quite a bit of clothing and camping-related stuff there, including a WWII surplus bayonnet. It was the start of my blade collection and served as a camping knife for many years. Wasn't it between 2nd south and 3rd south? A couple of doors down from Wolfs, next to Gallensons? I think the Astronaut Lounge was on the corner of 2nd south, across the street from Dee's. I miss State Street in the '70's. Remember Tape Head? 665 south State. "Under the sign of the mouse" (later "Super-Mouse).
That was the Eagle Company, if memory serves. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Kim Hyatt <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
Yup - that's the place. I guess it was between 2nd and 3rd south. There was also an army/navy uniform place on State Street next to Wolf's that was my favorite source for bell bottom jeans/fatigues.
Nothing beat ALLIED (I think that's how they spelled it) Remember the slogan: If we don't have it you don't need it Mark Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
That was the Eagle Company, if memory serves.
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Kim Hyatt <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
Yup - that's the place. I guess it was between 2nd and 3rd south. There was also an army/navy uniform place on State Street next to Wolf's that was my favorite source for bell bottom jeans/fatigues.
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Chuck, that is a new name for me. Ours was a Delco 4 cylinder gas engine to charge 16 ea 2 volt glass encased lead acid wet cells. One of the batteries had a white ball encased in the wall. When the ball was at the top (maybe 4" travel), the batteries were fully charged. As I recall, they needed to be charged maybe once a week, but then we did not leave lights on when not in use (or there was H to pay). I really would like to have had the batteries as a backup system for my ham radio setup, but, alas, my nephew took something to them when he was young, and broke them all. Being of glass, they were kinda pretty, I thought. My father was instrumental in getting REA lines in in 1955, not that long ago, and the co-op still furnishes the local electricity. 73 On 1/3/2013 2:46 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
Larry, was the light plant a Lister, by any chance?
Maybe everyone else knows, but where did you live, Larry? The only place in Utah I know of that was/is that remote is Callao, 'way out in the West Desert. I think they got either phones or electricity from the grid in the early 1970's - can't remember now which. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:21 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids Chuck, that is a new name for me. Ours was a Delco 4 cylinder gas engine to charge 16 ea 2 volt glass encased lead acid wet cells. One of the batteries had a white ball encased in the wall. When the ball was at the top (maybe 4" travel), the batteries were fully charged. As I recall, they needed to be charged maybe once a week, but then we did not leave lights on when not in use (or there was H to pay). I really would like to have had the batteries as a backup system for my ham radio setup, but, alas, my nephew took something to them when he was young, and broke them all. Being of glass, they were kinda pretty, I thought. My father was instrumental in getting REA lines in in 1955, not that long ago, and the co-op still furnishes the local electricity. 73 On 1/3/2013 2:46 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
Larry, was the light plant a Lister, by any chance?
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Larry, here's a you tube video of an old Lister up and running. There should be lots more next to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9iD6e8fmM On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Chuck, that is a new name for me. Ours was a Delco 4 cylinder gas engine to charge 16 ea 2 volt glass encased lead acid wet cells.
It looks like some people had a pretty good night observing and imaging the Quadrantids, despite the moonlight: http://news.yahoo.com/quadrantid-meteor-shower-wows-stargazers-230925035.htm...
Yeah, I know. In my teens and twenties I thought nothing of throwing my sleeping bag on the snow to sleep when it was -20, or slogging through the Escalante canyons in mid-winter, breaking through the ice in sneakers. Now, it doesn't happen nearly as often. (Read: never.) Something about greater wisdom coming with old age... Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:07 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quadrantids When Patrick and I were frequenting "Little Stonehenge" out by Grantsville in the mid-70's and dead of winter, he had a surplus Air Force heated flight suit that he powered with his car battery! As I recall, it was full-body- except for the rump... I think he told me that was because the seats were heated in the aircraft. It seems to me that zero degrees wasn't nearly as cold when I was 16, as it is in my '50's. Ya know? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
One of the crazier astronomy outings my family and I have enjoyed was a trip to Little Mountain in about 1990 to watch the Quadrantids. We took a large tarp, foam pads, sleeping bags and quilts and laid on top of the snow. It was about plus 10F, but the kids were warm enough to even fall asleep. I remember something like 60 or so at the peak ZHR. We observed from around 1:00 to 3:00. A memorable night for all of us.
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