Thanks Erik (and all) for the responses. I appreciate the advice. I am getting more familiar with the constellations. And have just added a pair of binoculars to my Christmas list. The Urban list looks great. And I definitely want to see the SLAS Observatory and probably take a class. (No I've never been at the U, or Poison Control) Gary Logan ____________________________________________________________ | ... | | Planetary Nebulae are excellent in the Grim 32". I would | recommend taking the observatory classes offered by SLAS. | | Planetary Nebulae seem less effected by light pollution, I | cannot see galaxies or diffuse nebulae of same magnitude | | ... | | http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/urban/urban.html | | Are you Gary Logan formally from Poison Control at the U? | | Erik