Your opinion please
The following was in yesterday's issue of News but I was just speaking with someone here on the list that does not receive News who wanted to give his two cents worth on the subject. So I'm posting it here in case there are others in the same position. Note that even non-SLAS members are welcome to express their opinion, especially if the changes being discussed might make it more likely they'd participate in SLAS functions or maybe even join SLAS. Clear skies, patrick Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue 1) SLAS may have the option of returning to the meeting hall we had been using up until a couple of months ago. The board would like to hear if you prefer the old venue or the new one. 2) There is a possibility that we could end the mystery of where we'll be holding our monthly meetings by moving them to the new Utah Museum of Natural History building. But to do that we'd need to move the meetings to Wednesdays (next year's SLAS prez Dave Bernson notes that moving the meetings to Wednesdays would mean free pie at ATS after <g>). The board would like to know if you favor moving the meetings to Wednesdays or keeping them on Tuesday. Please email your preferences to board@slas.us .
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
The following was in yesterday's issue of News but I was just speaking with someone here on the list that does not receive News who wanted to give his two cents worth on the subject.
So I'm posting it here in case there are others in the same position.
Note that even non-SLAS members are welcome to express their opinion, especially if the changes being discussed might make it more likely they'd participate in SLAS functions or maybe even join SLAS.
Clear skies,
patrick
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
1) SLAS may have the option of returning to the meeting hall we had been using up until a couple of months ago.
The board would like to hear if you prefer the old venue or the new one.
Definately the old venue. Parking at the new venue is too difficult.
2) There is a possibility that we could end the mystery of where we'll be holding our monthly meetings by moving them to the new Utah Museum of Natural History building. But to do that we'd need to move the meetings to Wednesdays (next year's SLAS prez Dave Bernson notes that moving the meetings to Wednesdays would mean free pie at ATS after <g>).
The board would like to know if you favor moving the meetings to Wednesdays or keeping them on Tuesday.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday are all the same to me. I would support a
change of date to secure a long term venue.
Please email your preferences to board@slas.us .
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-- Siegfried
The new museum would be the best. Even with the change to Wednesdays. ________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Your opinion please On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
The following was in yesterday's issue of News but I was just speaking with someone here on the list that does not receive News who wanted to give his two cents worth on the subject.
So I'm posting it here in case there are others in the same position.
Note that even non-SLAS members are welcome to express their opinion, especially if the changes being discussed might make it more likely they'd participate in SLAS functions or maybe even join SLAS.
Clear skies,
patrick
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
1) SLAS may have the option of returning to the meeting hall we had been using up until a couple of months ago.
The board would like to hear if you prefer the old venue or the new one.
Definately the old venue. Parking at the new venue is too difficult.
2) There is a possibility that we could end the mystery of where we'll be holding our monthly meetings by moving them to the new Utah Museum of Natural History building. But to do that we'd need to move the meetings to Wednesdays (next year's SLAS prez Dave Bernson notes that moving the meetings to Wednesdays would mean free pie at ATS after <g>).
The board would like to know if you favor moving the meetings to Wednesdays or keeping them on Tuesday.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday are all the same to me. I would support a
change of date to secure a long term venue.
Please email your preferences to board@slas.us .
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Yes, I saw her quoted in one of the papers. Great lady. ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Your opinion please On 11/12/11, Dale Wilson <dalel2112@yahoo.com> wrote:
The new museum would be the best. Even with the change to Wednesdays.
Anybody know if Sarah George is still the museum director? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
On 12 Nov 2011, at 14:59, Dale Wilson wrote:
The new museum would be the best. Even with the change to Wednesdays.
Everyone needs to keep in mind that any move to the museum is quite a ways off, if it happens at all. For the present the question is a choice between the old and new sites and between Tuesday and Wednesday. patrick
On 11/11/11, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
Venue doesn't matter to me. Thursday nights are the only nights I can attend, so if it's only a choice between Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that doesn't matter, either. I'll keep sending in my dues anyway. Thanks
I like the idea of going to the Museum of Natural History, provided the parking is acceptable.
On 11/11/11, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
Venue doesn't matter to me. Thursday nights are the only nights I can attend, so if it's only a choice between Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that doesn't matter, either.
I'll keep sending in my dues anyway.
Thanks
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I’m with Chuck except work doesn’t keep me away, geography does. I haven’t been to a meeting since we used to meet at Hansen Planetarium. That was a while ago. Dave On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 11/11/11, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
Venue doesn't matter to me. Thursday nights are the only nights I can attend, so if it's only a choice between Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that doesn't matter, either.
I'll keep sending in my dues anyway.
Thanks
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On 11/12/11, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
I’m with Chuck except work doesn’t keep me away, geography does. I haven’t been to a meeting since we used to meet at Hansen Planetarium. That was a while ago.
My last meeting was at the church on Foothill. I managed a couple at the Senior Center, and the last one I can remember was at Hansen, when I gave a presentation on telescope making. So maybe about four or five meetings in the last 12 years.
On 11/12/11, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
My last meeting was at the church on Foothill. I managed a couple at the Senior Center, and the last one I can remember was at Hansen, when I gave a presentation on telescope making. So maybe about four or five meetings in the last 12 years.
Amend that to read "the last meeting I can remember attending at Hansen". Blame 60-hour work-weeks and too-little sleep, for too many years. My apologies. Perhaps I'm more susceptible to nostalgia than most people, but I loved those meetings at the old Hansen planetarium. They were magical. Another time, another reality. I pity the (relative) noobies who weren't part of it in the '70's. You missed out. Yes, you can argue that I'm missing out on something now. But I would still argue that we old-timers got the better deal, all things considered. It's truly a shame that we are collectively pariah at the new planetarium. For the record, I have lived in Salt Lake county for some 53 years. I have NEVER set foot in the Clark Planetarium, mostly because of the continued strained relationship between them and SLAS. The reasons I've read for not hosting SLAS are ludicrous, at best. Untruths and jealously, at worst. It's the biggest scandal and shame of Utah astronomy in this day and age. Utter bullsh*t. The other, minor reason is because downtown SLC is a dunghole. I have been there perhaps 7 or 8 times in the last quarter-century, only when required for buisiness or other professional reasons. I used to work in downtown SLC some 27 years ago, for many years, and remember a much, MUCH more friendly, accommodating city. Today I avoid the CBD of SLC whenever possible The past is the past, so be that as it may, it seems that whenever it's meeting nights, something absolutely requires my presence at work the next morning at 6 AM. I can use a pre-scheduled vacation day to sleep-in the next morning, but that costs me somewhere around $350, at least. How many SLAS members would attend a meeting if it cost them $350? A dark-site star-party once or twice a year, MAYBE, if other family members agree to it- but monthly meetings? I can't afford it these days. Months. Years. OK, I'm getting down off my soapbox. Thanks for your time.
I think most of us have overcome animosity with respect to tha Clark Planetarium. At this point in time I don't feel threatened by them at all. We should work towards a mutually beneficial relationship. As far as hosting us there I think it is entirely impractical. Downtown parking is poor. They really don't have a proper place. Meetings like ours just were not considered and I don't know that Seth could have had it any other way. Siegfried On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/12/11, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
My last meeting was at the church on Foothill. I managed a couple at the Senior Center, and the last one I can remember was at Hansen, when I gave a presentation on telescope making. So maybe about four or five meetings in the last 12 years.
Amend that to read "the last meeting I can remember attending at Hansen".
Blame 60-hour work-weeks and too-little sleep, for too many years. My apologies.
Perhaps I'm more susceptible to nostalgia than most people, but I loved those meetings at the old Hansen planetarium. They were magical. Another time, another reality. I pity the (relative) noobies who weren't part of it in the '70's. You missed out.
Yes, you can argue that I'm missing out on something now. But I would still argue that we old-timers got the better deal, all things considered.
It's truly a shame that we are collectively pariah at the new planetarium. For the record, I have lived in Salt Lake county for some 53 years. I have NEVER set foot in the Clark Planetarium, mostly because of the continued strained relationship between them and SLAS. The reasons I've read for not hosting SLAS are ludicrous, at best. Untruths and jealously, at worst. It's the biggest scandal and shame of Utah astronomy in this day and age. Utter bullsh*t.
The other, minor reason is because downtown SLC is a dunghole. I have been there perhaps 7 or 8 times in the last quarter-century, only when required for buisiness or other professional reasons. I used to work in downtown SLC some 27 years ago, for many years, and remember a much, MUCH more friendly, accommodating city. Today I avoid the CBD of SLC whenever possible
The past is the past, so be that as it may, it seems that whenever it's meeting nights, something absolutely requires my presence at work the next morning at 6 AM. I can use a pre-scheduled vacation day to sleep-in the next morning, but that costs me somewhere around $350, at least. How many SLAS members would attend a meeting if it cost them $350? A dark-site star-party once or twice a year, MAYBE, if other family members agree to it- but monthly meetings? I can't afford it these days. Months. Years.
OK, I'm getting down off my soapbox. Thanks for your time.
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-- Siegfried
Is there any reason it couldn't be at the new museum on Thursday nights? -- Joe ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Your opinion please On 11/11/11, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Your Opinions Please: Meeting Night and Meeting Venue
Venue doesn't matter to me. Thursday nights are the only nights I can attend, so if it's only a choice between Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that doesn't matter, either. I'll keep sending in my dues anyway. Thanks _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
On 12 Nov 2011, at 11:57, Joe Bauman wrote:
Is there any reason it couldn't be at the new museum on Thursday nights? -- Joe
The currently planned operating hours for the new museum have it open in the evening only on Wednesday. While that might change down the road, for now the only option is Wednesday. But, like I said in an earlier posting, the only things being seriously discussed now are Tuesday vs. Wednesday and old venue vs. new. Also, while discussions here are welcome please email your votes on "Tuesday vs. Wednesday and old venue vs. new" to the SLAS board at board@slas.us so they can be included in discussions at next month's SLAS transitional board meeting. Clear skies, patrick
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