I think it was someone else who thought it would be a good idea to bring the Clark out of retirement. I don't remember that being my idea. My idea was to bring out the 8" MAK. Do you remember who suggested the Clark Patrick? Weather permitting I think this is a good idea. Brent & I used to do a number of star parties mid winter at the old Harmons. I still have pictures of us set up there wearing our down-filled parkas. Siegfried