Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
The worse news is that 4 Nuclear Reactors where damaged to the point of possible melt downs.
The news also reported there is fault line due to slip of the west coast of the US that could be bigger than this mag 9 earthquake. Seems most of damage on west coast was because it was not taken seriously, I imagine Hawaii does take it seriously. Joe, I am not sure the depth of the bay matters other than the bigger the wave the more water is sucked from the coast before the Tsunami hits. If the sea suddenly recedes run for high ground.
Siegfried and Bill Cowles.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wiggins" <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:38:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
On 12 Mar 2011, at 11:46, Joe Bauman wrote:
I went to Emon Beach (on the island of Kwajalein, Marshall Islands) to see the tsunami that followed the Alaskan earthquake of 1964.
Y'all need to ask Siegfried about his experience with the 1964 earthquake. Â He was right in the thick of it.
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Watching the news last night, Maui had the most damage though Kona on the Big Island looked worse. We had damage to our harbors and Oahu got a good slam too. With past major damage and deaths here in Hawaii tsunamis are taken VERY seriously, the 1946 quake that wiped out Hilo also has a very sad moment. A school at Lapauhoehoe lost most of their students AND teachers when they saw the water recede and went to collect fish. The memorial to this day is covered w/ leis and flowers and that gave notice to Hawaii that tsunamis here are to be taken serious. I did think it odd to see tourist cars parked at 4000 to 7000 ft at night on the way down from the summit. We take it serious here and go a few 100 feet up. If a wave were to strike at 4000 ft it wouldn't be only Hawaii that has to worry, though Utah would be fine ;^) Aloha Rob
Those folks parked up on the mountain watched too many catastrophe movie! --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Rob Ratkowski Photography <ratkwski@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
From: Rob Ratkowski Photography <ratkwski@hawaii.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 11:10 AM Watching the news last night, Maui had the most damage though Kona on the Big Island looked worse. We had damage to our harbors and Oahu got a good slam too. With past major damage and deaths here in Hawaii tsunamis are taken VERY seriously, the 1946 quake that wiped out Hilo also has a very sad moment. A school at Lapauhoehoe lost most of their students AND teachers when they saw the water recede and went to collect fish. The memorial to this day is covered w/ leis and flowers and that gave notice to Hawaii that tsunamis here are to be taken serious. I did think it odd to see tourist cars parked at 4000 to 7000 ft at night on the way down from the summit. We take it serious here and go a few 100 feet up. If a wave were to strike at 4000 ft it wouldn't be only Hawaii that has to worry, though Utah would be fine ;^)
Aloha Rob
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The Cascadia Fault zone off the coast of northern California up off the coast of Washington is capable of a 9.0 +- earthquake. The last one in January 1700 caused what some geologist estimate to be a 1-5m tsunami in Japan (there are records recording the event) and probably anywhere from a 30ft to 80ft tsunami into Oregon and Washington. These seem to occur every 250 to 500 years so that fault is well within its forecast area to go. Some though feel that the fault is segmented and thus won't deliver such a blow. Here is some info: USGS: http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/earthquakes/cascadia/ Brian Atwater who works for the USGS and is a research professor at the University of Washington brought this fault and its potential out to the public. Here is one of his papers on the matter: http://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/pp1707/ Podcast 1 with Brian Atwater from NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4629401 Podcast 2 with Brian Atwater on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4254895 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:20 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The worse news is that 4 Nuclear Reactors where damaged to the point of possible melt downs.
The news also reported there is fault line due to slip of the west coast of the US that could be bigger than this mag 9 earthquake. Seems most of damage on west coast was because it was not taken seriously, I imagine Hawaii does take it seriously. Joe, I am not sure the depth of the bay matters other than the bigger the wave the more water is sucked from the coast before the Tsunami hits. If the sea suddenly recedes run for high ground.
Siegfried and Bill Cowles.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wiggins" <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:38:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
On 12 Mar 2011, at 11:46, Joe Bauman wrote:
I went to Emon Beach (on the island of Kwajalein, Marshall Islands) to see the tsunami that followed the Alaskan earthquake of 1964.
Y'all need to ask Siegfried about his experience with the 1964
earthquake.
 He was right in the thick of it.
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-- Jay Eads
I guess if you see the Hollywood versions and the best of the worst tsunami films, it would be scary. When i Lived in Southern California and in N. California (16 mi. from the epicenter of the Great SF Quake) I was use to the shakes and the groans from my old (125 years) farm house. The quakes that we get here are sometimes a bit un-nerving but tolerated. The tsunami warnings should be taken but w/ checking ocean bouys, NOAA and the USGS Earthquake Watch, one can get a feel for a major or minor event. I live @ 1550 ft on the side of Haleakala (volcano) and when I see a red glow coming down I will leave the area for a better view. Aloha Rob PS It's a beautiful, clear and warm day today ..... again
Erik, I think the depth of the bay would most certainly matter. Tsunamis form exactly because of shallower coastline water. Remember, the word itself means "harbor wave." Depth of the water is one of the main factors that determine the height of a tsunami. Shallower water allows the wave to both slow down and "pile up" into a much larger wave than that which may have been propagated thousands of miles away. At great depths, i.e. mid-ocean, the waves are sometimes not even noticeable. The same waves can become monsters in shallow water. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@thebluezone.net Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:20 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
The worse news is that 4 Nuclear Reactors where damaged to the point of possible melt downs.
The news also reported there is fault line due to slip of the west coast of the US that could be bigger than this mag 9 earthquake. Seems most of damage on west coast was because it was not taken seriously, I imagine Hawaii does take it seriously. Joe, I am not sure the depth of the bay matters other than the bigger the wave the more water is sucked from the coast before the Tsunami hits. If the sea suddenly recedes run for high ground.
Siegfried and Bill Cowles.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wiggins" <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:38:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
On 12 Mar 2011, at 11:46, Joe Bauman wrote:
I went to Emon Beach (on the island of Kwajalein, Marshall Islands) to see the tsunami that followed the Alaskan earthquake of 1964.
Y'all need to ask Siegfried about his experience with the 1964 earthquake. Â He was right in the thick of it.
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Kim is right about the ocean bottom approaching the land. The latest tsunami didn't cause any damage on Kwajalein, according to folks who are there. But obviously it continued on to cause some damage in Hawaii and California. -- Joe --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Kim Hyatt <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
From: Kim Hyatt <kimharch@cut.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 2:36 PM Erik, I think the depth of the bay would most certainly matter. Tsunamis form exactly because of shallower coastline water. Remember, the word itself means "harbor wave." Depth of the water is one of the main factors that determine the height of a tsunami. Shallower water allows the wave to both slow down and "pile up" into a much larger wave than that which may have been propagated thousands of miles away. At great depths, i.e. mid-ocean, the waves are sometimes not even noticeable. The same waves can become monsters in shallow water.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@thebluezone.net Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:20 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to Hawaii
The worse news is that 4 Nuclear Reactors where damaged to the point of possible melt downs.
The news also reported there is fault line due to slip of the west coast of the US that could be bigger than this mag 9 earthquake. Seems most of damage on west coast was because it was not taken seriously, I imagine Hawaii does take it seriously. Joe, I am not sure the depth of the bay matters other than the bigger the wave the more water is sucked from the coast before the Tsunami hits. If the sea suddenly recedes run for high ground.
Siegfried and Bill Cowles.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wiggins" <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:38:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Tsunami coming to
Hawaii
On 12 Mar 2011, at 11:46, Joe Bauman wrote:
I went to Emon Beach (on the island of Kwajalein,
Marshall Islands) to
see the tsunami that followed the Alaskan earthquake of 1964.
Y'all need to ask Siegfried about his experience with the 1964 earthquake. Â He was right in the thick of it.
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