Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective... http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2%... Dan
Thanks, Daniel. It's always encouraging to see people looking up into the universe and soaking in its wonder. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> To: Utah-astronomy Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges — and Dangers — of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective... http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2%... Dan _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
This reminds of a story, a bit unrelated, that John Dobson told a few of us when he was in SLC years ago. The story took place in the late 80's, as I recall. He was on the Navajo reservation doing a star party at one of the reservation schools, observing the Moon. He explained to a couple of high-school age girls that we know that the Moon is composed of the same stuff as the Earth. One of them asked, "Well how do we know that?" He replied that when the Apollo astronauts were on the Moon they collected rock samples that consist of the same minerals as Earth. The girls looked at him, incredulously, and one asked, "Do you mean that people have been on the Moon?" I don't share that to ridicule anyone; it's just a fact of life that not everyone has the same educational experiences that most of us take for granted. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:16 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy]The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan Thanks, Daniel. It's always encouraging to see people looking up into the universe and soaking in its wonder. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> To: Utah-astronomy Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective... http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2% 80%93-of-amateur-astronomy-in-afghanistan/ Dan _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3762 - Release Date: 07/13/11
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon. Dave On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Kim wrote:
This reminds of a story, a bit unrelated, that John Dobson told a few of us when he was in SLC years ago. The story took place in the late 80's, as I recall. He was on the Navajo reservation doing a star party at one of the reservation schools, observing the Moon. He explained to a couple of high-school age girls that we know that the Moon is composed of the same stuff as the Earth. One of them asked, "Well how do we know that?" He replied that when the Apollo astronauts were on the Moon they collected rock samples that consist of the same minerals as Earth. The girls looked at him, incredulously, and one asked, "Do you mean that people have been on the Moon?"
I don't share that to ridicule anyone; it's just a fact of life that not everyone has the same educational experiences that most of us take for granted.
Kim
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Thanks, Daniel. It's always encouraging to see people looking up into the universe and soaking in its wonder. -- Joe
________________________________ From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> To: Utah-astronomy Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan
Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective...
http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2% 80%93-of-amateur-astronomy-in-afghanistan/
Dan
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On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUqaVj51w4&feature=youtube_gdata_player You go Buzz! patrick
“One of these days, Alice, one of these days. Pow! Right in the kisser! Bang! Zoom! To the moon, Alice, to the moon!” Looks like an audition for a remake of “The Honeymooners” On 2011-07-14 00:15, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@???> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject:
"well-informed and educated" ? that seems doubtful!
On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUqaVj51w4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You go Buzz!
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There are times when words just fail and you have to take action. Way to go, Buzz. Here's a longer version that shows how this jackass hounded, intimidated and essentially pushed Buzz around. -- Joe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=related ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUqaVj51w4&feature=youtube_gdata_player You go Buzz! patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
Does anyone know when this occurred? Did the (unspeakable) sibrel receive any satisfaction for having been so shamefully assaulted by Buzz Aldrin? -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:38 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of AmateurAstronomy in Afghanistan There are times when words just fail and you have to take action. Way to go, Buzz. Here's a longer version that shows how this jackass hounded, intimidated and essentially pushed Buzz around. -- Joe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=related ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUqaVj51w4&feature=youtube_gdata_player You go Buzz! patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3764 - Release Date: 07/14/11
On 14 Jul 2011, at 11:26, Kim wrote:
Does anyone know when this occurred? Did the (unspeakable) sibrel receive any satisfaction for having been so shamefully assaulted by Buzz Aldrin?
The story goes (though I've not been able to confirm it) that the guy tried to sue but the case was tossed with the judge saying he deserved the punch. patrick
From Bart Sibrel's wikipedia page: -------------- Most astronauts have refused to grant him interviews. The most infamous incident involved Apollo 11 crew member Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon. According to Aldrin, he was lured to a Beverly Hills hotel under the pretext of an interview on space for a Japanese children's television show. When he arrived, Aldrin claims Sibrel was there demanding that he swear on a Bible that he had walked on the moon. When Aldrin refused, Sibrel called him a "coward", a "liar", and a "thief".[1] An exasperated Aldrin punched Sibrel in the jaw, which was recorded. Sibrel later attempted to use the tape to convince police and prosecutors that he was the victim of an assault. However, it was decided that Aldrin had been provoked, and (based on Sibrel's unfazed, nearly instant reaction to his camera man) did not actually injure Sibrel, and no charges were filed. Many talk show hosts aired the clip, making Sibrel the butt of jokes.[2] Sibrel said later that he wrote a letter of apology to Aldrin.[3] -------------- Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
On 14 Jul 2011, at 11:26, Kim wrote:
Does anyone know when this occurred? Did the (unspeakable) sibrel receive any satisfaction for having been so shamefully assaulted by Buzz Aldrin?
The story goes (though I've not been able to confirm it) that the guy tried to sue but the case was tossed with the judge saying he deserved the punch.
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Thanks Joe, after watching that video I’ll dare say that the one punch wasn’t enough, but then again, seems like Sibrel has some kind of fetish for getting beat up by astronauts like this other video shows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTUaZl6Nyho&feature=related On 2011-07-14 17:26, Kim wrote:
Does anyone know when this occurred? Did the (unspeakable) sibrel receive any satisfaction for having been so shamefully assaulted by Buzz Aldrin?
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There are times when words just fail and you have to take action. Way to go, Buzz. Here's a longer version that shows how this jackass hounded, intimidated and essentially pushed Buzz around. -- Joe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic
I remember a RTMC when Harrison Schmidt (last man to step off the moon )was the featured speaker, even in that crowd the hoax question came up.
There are times when words just fail and you have to take action. Way to
go, Buzz. Here's a longer version that shows how this jackass hounded, intimidated and essentially pushed Buzz around. -- Joe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic&feature=related
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On Jul 13, 2011, at 18:05, Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> wrote:
Then there are those who are well-informed and educated that deny we have been on Moon.
Buzz Aldrin's take on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUqaVj51w4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You go Buzz!
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I guess that just means Navajo's have had more basic things in live on their mind.
This reminds of a story, a bit unrelated, that John Dobson told a few of
us when he was in SLC years ago. The story took place in the late 80's, as I recall. He was on the Navajo reservation doing a star party at one of the reservation schools, observing the Moon. He explained to a couple of high-school age girls that we know that the Moon is composed of the same stuff as the Earth. One of them asked, "Well how do we know that?" He replied that when the Apollo astronauts were on the Moon they collected rock samples that consist of the same minerals as Earth. The girls looked at him, incredulously, and one asked, "Do you mean that people have been on the Moon?"
I don't share that to ridicule anyone; it's just a fact of life that not everyone has the same educational experiences that most of us take for granted.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:16 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy]The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan
Thanks, Daniel. It's always encouraging to see people looking up into the universe and soaking in its wonder. -- Joe
________________________________ From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> To: Utah-astronomy Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] The Challenges - and Dangers - of Amateur Astronomy in Afghanistan
Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective...
http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2% 80%93-of-amateur-astronomy-in-afghanistan/
Dan
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Looks to me like Terrorists prefer Schmidt/Cassegrain telescopes! Seriously you have to be real avid to brave minefields at night.
Kinda puts the minor issues we have at SPOC into a new perspective...
http://www.universetoday.com/87231/the-challenges-%E2%80%93-and-dangers-%E2%...
Dan
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