I found the discussion about Spirit's troubles very interesting. I can't remember the ladies name, but she gave a pretty detailed account of what happened and when. She also described how they approached the trouble shooting. This included something that I have seen many times. The Sr developer had an intuitive guess that it had something to do with the flash memory. There current theory on what is wrong is that they got too many files in the flash memory and it overflowed the file system portion of RAM. They are now going to delete a bunch of files that they don't need and that should resolve the problem. Being a software developer, it sure sounds like a good theory. Dave