Here's one everyone will understand: "Eat a toad first thing in the morning, and nothing worse can happen to you for the rest of the day". ;) Quoting William Biesele <bill@biesele.net>:

6x9 [base 10] = 42 [base 13].

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Good one Dale.

After looking at it for a couple of days though, the equally correct but more elegant answer comes when you keep it in hex such as: dead plus 0001 is deae. The last answer keeps me from wondering where my hex calculator went... B)

Did the ultimate answer of 42 ever find the ultimate question to go with it?

73 de n7zi Gary

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Hmmm... no takers eh...

Well, after looking at C0DE all day and eating BEEF I'd have to be a real B0B0 if I didn't answer: 57006 (decimal)

How come it's not 42? I always thought that was the ultimate answer?

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Here's one for you folks... B)

"How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?"

73 de n7zi Gary

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You guys are cracking me up. See what you started Chuck... B) 73 de n7zi Gary "Why buy something for ten bucks when you can make it for a hundred." JR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Hyatt" <kimharch@cut.net> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quote of the Day

That reminds me of an old tale about Sanpete girls: Utah boys should try to marry a girl from Sanpete. No matter how bad things in the marriage get, Sanpete girls have seen worse.

(Please no hate mail - after all, I'm now from Sanpete myself. Well, maybe just visiting.)

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| Here's one everyone will understand: | | "Eat a toad first thing in the morning, and nothing worse can happen to you | for the rest of the day". ;) | | | | | Quoting William Biesele <bill@biesele.net>: | | > 6x9 [base 10] = 42 [base 13]. | > | > | > On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Gary Liptrot wrote: | > | >> Good one Dale. | >> | >> After looking at it for a couple of days though, the equally | >> correct but more elegant answer comes when you keep it in hex such | >> as: | >> dead plus 0001 is deae. | >> The last answer keeps me from wondering where my hex calculator went... B) | >> | >> Did the ultimate answer of 42 ever find the ultimate question to go | >> with it? | >> | >> 73 de n7zi | >> Gary | >> | >> "Why buy something for ten bucks when you can make it for a hundred." JR | >> | >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Hooper" <Dale.Hooper@sdl.usu.edu> | >> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> | >> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:24 PM | >> Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Quote of the Day | >> | >> | >> Hmmm... no takers eh... | >> | >> Well, after looking at C0DE all day and eating BEEF I'd have to be a | >> real B0B0 if I didn't answer: 57006 (decimal) | >> | >> How come it's not 42? I always thought that was the ultimate answer? | >> | >> | >>> -----Original Message----- | >>> From: | >>> | >> utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman.xmission.com | >> | >>> [mailto:utah-astronomy- | >>> bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of | >>> | >> Gary | >> | >>> Liptrot | >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:13 PM | >>> To: Utah Astronomy | >>> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Quote of the Day | >>> | >>> Here's one for you folks... B) | >>> | >>> "How many people can read | >>> hex if only you and dead | >>> people can read hex?" | >>> | >>> | >>> 73 de n7zi | >>> Gary | >>> | >>> | >> | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list | >> Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list | >> Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | >> | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Utah-Astronomy mailing list | > Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | > | | | | _______________________________________________ | Utah-Astronomy mailing list | Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | | ______________________________________________________________________ | This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net | ______________________________________________________________________ | |

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I thought about this all night an think I have come up with the ultimate question for the ultimate answer of 42. Here goes... What is 40 + 2

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Did the ultimate answer of 42 ever find the ultimate question to go with it?

73 de n7zi Gary

I just saw an amazing movie that happens to have a scene answering the tree-falling question. It's called "Grizzly Man," about a Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend, who were killed by bears. Anyway, Timothy was heavily into documenting his experiences in the wilds of Alaska. He made numerous takes -- up to 15! -- of scenes where he wanted to make a comment. He would set up his videocamera, get it running, and keep filming takes. During one of these sessions he had placed the camera where it would catch sight of him coming down a trail and then he would walk up to the camera and say something. A somehow lovely scenes happened between takes. Treadwell slipped on the trail coming down so he went back up to try it again. He disappeared into the underbrush. Then there were amazing moments when he was farther up the trail somewhere, the camera was running, and there was this view of vegetation swishing and swaying in the breeze, and of course you could hear the sound of this even though no human was listening at the time. It really was a mysterious scene, which the filmmaker (Werner Hrezog) commented on. Cory, my wife, thought it was scary but I was enthralled by it. -- Joe

Sorry, Guy. I'm no mathematician, but I think even that question is conditional. I think related questions, but necessarily THE question, include, If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it, does the tree exist? and, If a tree falls in the forest and I'm not there to hear it, does anything matter anyway?

42

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|I thought about this all night an think I have come up with the ultimate | question for the ultimate answer of 42. Here goes... What is 40 + 2 | | | > Gary Liptrot wrote: | > | >> Did the ultimate answer of 42 ever find the ultimate question to go with it? | >> | >> 73 de n7zi | >> Gary | | | _______________________________________________ | Utah-Astronomy mailing list | Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | | ______________________________________________________________________ | This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net | ______________________________________________________________________ | |

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A somehow lovely scenes happened between takes.

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Joe, thanks for clarifiying that! Whew, I thought for a moment there you might have been describing his getting eaten by bears off in the underbrush as a "lovely scene". :o) --- Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:

Sorry for the typo, Rich. I meant to say a somehow lovely scene happened between takes -- not scenes. My note was in response to Kim's joke about the old conundrum wondering whether there's a sound if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it. In the movie "Grizzly Man", a documentary about the life and death of Timothy Treadwell (put together with video Treadwell himself made), Treadwell leaves the video camera running between takes. In this particular scene, between takes nobody is around, yet we see this somewhat mysterious view of what the camera sees and we hear the wind and the vegetation swishing. No human is present while the camera is rolling. It goes on for a while, and this glimpse of otherwise unseen nature is somehow surprising, as if we are peering into the heart of the wilderness. I'm sorry if I expressed it poorly -- I simply wanted to share what I thought was a highlight of the film. From his comments, I know Werner Herzog, who made the documentary, felt the same way. If you do see the movie you'll understand what I was trying to say. -- Joe

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A somehow lovely scenes happened between takes.

Huh??? That's one of the strangest emails I've ever read Joe...

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I remember my first wife teaching me a little math of her own. 1 + 1 = 3. It took me 9 months or there abouts to figure that one out. So Gary, what is 73 de n7zi? Quoting Gary Liptrot <n7zi@comcast.net>:

Be careful Guy because 2 + 2 = 5 for very large values of 2... B)

73 de n7zi Gary

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I thought about this all night an think I have come up with the ultimate question for the ultimate answer of 42. Here goes... What is 40 + 2

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Did the ultimate answer of 42 ever find the ultimate question to go with it?

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It's just more fun to build stuff yourself although not often cheaper... B)

Anybody remember Heathkit? They used to sell well-documented kits for all sorts of electronics. You could often save a bundle on various types of gear by spending a few nights with a kit. Back around 1980 or so, I built a VT-52 compatible computer monitor and the kit cost me ONLY $900. Heath even had a kit to build a PDP-11/01 computer. Pretty serious hardware. Boy did I drool over that one. Most of their stuff was radios, audio gear and such. But when the Japanese perfected high-quality mass production, the finished goods cost substantially less than the kits. Bye bye Heathkit. Pity.

I had a Heathkit. Lots of fun using those spring clips to wire up the various components. My first PC was a Heath/Zenith Z-100, dual cpu and OS, ran both DOS and CPM. Yup, I'm a dinosaur. --- Michael Carnes <MichaelCarnes@earthlink.net> wrote:

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Beautiful image Don -- nice work! --- "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:

I took this image http://www.utahastronomy.com/donjc/Mars_Enlarged last night. The seeing was OK but not excellent.

Clear Skies Don Colton

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I processed the stacked image with Registax and a mild unsharp mask in Photoshop. I probably need to play with it a little more. I also did not spend much time picking the calibration image out of the 1000 taken. I used the ToUcam Pro 740 which is essentially the same as the 840. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Hyatt Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:29 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] New Mars Image Wow, Don! Did you process the image at all? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] New Mars Image |I took this image http://www.utahastronomy.com/donjc/Mars_Enlarged last |night. The seeing was OK but not excellent. | | Clear Skies | Don Colton | | | | | _______________________________________________ | Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | | ______________________________________________________________________ | This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net | ______________________________________________________________________ | _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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By the way, you can see Olympus Mons on the bottom just right of center http://www.utahastronomy.com/donjc/Mars_Enlarged

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Science channel 284 (Directv) had a brand new 2005 program on tonight called "Hubble and beyond. Telescopes in space". It will air again at 11:00 p.m. tonight and again at 03:00 a.m. in the morning for those who care to record it. It talked about and showed the underwater training preparations required to service the Hubble and documented both Shuttle missions to repair the Hubble. During the program they talked about Chandra, Spitzer and at the end mentioned the James Webb telescope. One of the scientist said that it cost way too much to send the shuttle on service missions. Said it cost more to send up one Hubble service mission, than it would cost to build and launch a brand new space telescope, bigger and better than Hubble, with the latest instruments. He aparently was against manned missions to service any space telescope. Said that the James Webb telescope will cost just slightly more than a standard Shuttle service mission. FWIW...

Great shot Don! I have been trying to get a decent version of Mars, but no luck yet! The seeing conditions here are always pretty tough for good planetary imaging. Nicely done! Cheers, Tyler ___________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+tylerallred=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+tylerallred=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of Don J. Colton Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:41 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: [Utah-astronomy] New Mars Image I took this image http://www.utahastronomy.com/donjc/Mars_Enlarged last night. The seeing was OK but not excellent. Clear Skies Don Colton _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com