Wayne: All you're missing is that the declination distance needs to be divided by the cosine of your latitude. 47deg / cos(41) = 62 degs. As for your not being very bright, I think you have asked a very intelligent question. That is is the mark of a mind that is growing and learning. DT ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&c...