The weather was good for viewing last night, so I drove out to the west desert for some binocular viewing. Only stayed a couple of hours. It was warm and dry with a slight breeze. Patches of cirrus cloud were here and there in an otherwise beautiful sky. M51 was directly overhead so leaning against the SUV with 20x80's I could easily see spiral structure. M101 was easy to spot. as well. M10 and M12 globulars jumped out even in 10x50's in the middle of OPH which was still rising above the glow of SLC. M68 in Corvus was getting low in the southwest. M3, M4, and M5 rounded out the night for globulars. DT
Nice. I love looking at the larger galaxies with a large bino from a reasonably dark site. M51 is a favorite. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:30 AM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
The weather was good for viewing last night, so I drove out to the west desert for some binocular viewing. Only stayed a couple of hours. It was warm and dry with a slight breeze. Patches of cirrus cloud were here and there in an otherwise beautiful sky.
M51 was directly overhead so leaning against the SUV with 20x80's I could easily see spiral structure. M101 was easy to spot. as well. M10 and M12 globulars jumped out even in 10x50's in the middle of OPH which was still rising above the glow of SLC. M68 in Corvus was getting low in the southwest. M3, M4, and M5 rounded out the night for globulars.
.
That's a great report, Daniel. I had a birthday party to attend or would have been in the western desert too. On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:37 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote: Nice. I love looking at the larger galaxies with a large bino from a reasonably dark site. M51 is a favorite. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:30 AM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
The weather was good for viewing last night, so I drove out to the west desert for some binocular viewing. Only stayed a couple of hours. It was warm and dry with a slight breeze. Patches of cirrus cloud were here and there in an otherwise beautiful sky.
M51 was directly overhead so leaning against the SUV with 20x80's I could easily see spiral structure. M101 was easy to spot. as well. M10 and M12 globulars jumped out even in 10x50's in the middle of OPH which was still rising above the glow of SLC. M68 in Corvus was getting low in the southwest. M3, M4, and M5 rounded out the night for globulars.
.
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My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster. DT
________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] clear night with no moon
Nice.
I love looking at the larger galaxies with a large bino from a reasonably dark site. M51 is a favorite.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:30 AM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
The weather was good for viewing last night, so I drove out to the west desert for some binocular viewing. Only stayed a couple of hours. It was warm and dry with a slight breeze. Patches of cirrus cloud were here and there in an otherwise beautiful sky.
M51 was directly overhead so leaning against the SUV with 20x80's I could easily see spiral structure. M101 was easy to spot. as well. M10 and M12 globulars jumped out even in 10x50's in the middle of OPH which was still rising above the glow of SLC. M68 in Corvus was getting low in the southwest. M3, M4, and M5 rounded out the night for globulars.
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At least a third of the UA posts have been going to my spam folder for at least a few weeks (including the one below). It's gotten to the point where looking in my spam folder has become the norm. patrick On 27 May 2014, at 17:53, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
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Every single e-mail from Yahoo to this list ends up in my Spam box despite me repeatedly marking them as Not Spam and also having a filter for them. The issue is with Xmission. I'm not exactly sure what the configuration issue is, but Google and Yahoo have recently changed their spam detection mechanisms to flag spam that is sent from servers that do not match the FROM address of the sender or reply-to addresses. There are generally e-mail headers can be configured to provide additional verification that should alleviate this issue. I'm subscribed to over 20 e-mail lists - many of which use mailman (the same software as this list) - and none of them have this issue. Jared On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@getbeehive.net> wrote:
At least a third of the UA posts have been going to my spam folder for at least a few weeks (including the one below).
It's gotten to the point where looking in my spam folder has become the norm.
patrick
On 27 May 2014, at 17:53, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
DT
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The spam gods have chastened me, I suppose. On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:06 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@getbeehive.net> wrote: At least a third of the UA posts have been going to my spam folder for at least a few weeks (including the one below). It's gotten to the point where looking in my spam folder has become the norm. patrick On 27 May 2014, at 17:53, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
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None of the posts from this list go to my junk folder. Whatever I’ve done to avoid this problem is beyond me. Hopefully, if Joe doesn’t jinx me, everything should be OK. Dave On May 29, 2014, at 0:12, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
The spam gods have chastened me, I suppose.
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:06 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@getbeehive.net> wrote:
At least a third of the UA posts have been going to my spam folder for at least a few weeks (including the one below).
It's gotten to the point where looking in my spam folder has become the norm.
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On 27 May 2014, at 17:53, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
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Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg
Steve, You need to teach me how to image. Murphy rarely visits me and most of the images I get I would never post. If that’s a Murphy image, I’ll take it. This next week, I’m going to try to get comet Panstarrs C/2012 K1. Better luck next time. I don’t think you need it. Dave On May 30, 2014, at 1:18, gazebo4sale@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,
Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes.
I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight.
I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N.
On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in.
Here is my photo, captured with:
Canon T3i Modified by Hutech
14X100" exposures
Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus.
Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold.
No guiding.
Takahahsi Temma 2 mount.
Steve Gallenson
http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg
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Wow, gorgeous work. I can't wait to see what you can do when Murphy is on sabbatical... /R ________________________________ From: "gazebo4sale@comcast.net" <gazebo4sale@comcast.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:18 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Spectacular, Steve! Congratulations! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
Amazing shots! I always carry two cables. One is programmable, the other is a basic shutter control. I learned the hard way back in the days of mechanical cables and emulsion photography. Had cables fail more than once. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:18 AM, <gazebo4sale@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi,
Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes.
I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight.
I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N.
Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks, Thanks for the nice comments and input. Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind. I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image. Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh. My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also. Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids. I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures. I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png . Thanks for the comments. Steve Gallenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:33:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Hi Steve, Star bloat has nothing to do with collimation but is caused by poor seeing or focusing. Getting accurate focus is not trivial and without Focus Max or a similar program it can be difficult to achieve - particularly with a fast system like yours. If you have round star images throughout the frame your collimation is good. Poor collimation will result in oval images with one side "pinched". This image of the Pelican http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3968 was taken with the same scope you have - FSQ106 at f/5 and I used the FSQ reducer on this one: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3896 . Click on both images for enlarged version. The best way to check for collimation is use a high power eyepiece on a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star and see if you get concentric diffraction rings. Also, be sure the image is centered in the field of view. Clear Skies, Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks, Thanks for the nice comments and input. Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind. I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image. Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh. My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also. Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids. I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures. I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png . Thanks for the comments. Steve Gallenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:33:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. 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As some here might expect I can't help but mention that slightly bloated and out of focus stars are usually not a problem when taking data. In fact, in some cases bloated and out of focus stars can even be a plus. patrick :) On 31 May 2014, at 18:41, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
Star bloat has nothing to do with collimation but is caused by poor seeing or focusing. Getting accurate focus is not trivial and without Focus Max or a similar program it can be difficult to achieve - particularly with a fast system like yours. If you have round star images throughout the frame your collimation is good. Poor collimation will result in oval images with one side "pinched". This image of the Pelican http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3968 was taken with the same scope you have - FSQ106 at f/5 and I used the FSQ reducer on this one: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3896 . Click on both images for enlarged version.
The best way to check for collimation is use a high power eyepiece on a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star and see if you get concentric diffraction rings. Also, be sure the image is centered in the field of view.
Clear Skies,
Don
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Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks,
Thanks for the nice comments and input.
Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind.
I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image.
Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh.
My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also.
Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids.
I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures.
I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png .
Thanks for the comments.
Steve Gallenson
Don, Nice images. Where were you when you imaged the Pelican? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi Steve, Star bloat has nothing to do with collimation but is caused by poor seeing or focusing. Getting accurate focus is not trivial and without Focus Max or a similar program it can be difficult to achieve - particularly with a fast system like yours. If you have round star images throughout the frame your collimation is good. Poor collimation will result in oval images with one side "pinched". This image of the Pelican http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3968 was taken with the same scope you have - FSQ106 at f/5 and I used the FSQ reducer on this one: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3896 . Click on both images for enlarged version. The best way to check for collimation is use a high power eyepiece on a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star and see if you get concentric diffraction rings. Also, be sure the image is centered in the field of view. Clear Skies, Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks, Thanks for the nice comments and input. Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind. I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image. Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh. My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also. Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids. I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures. I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png . Thanks for the comments. Steve Gallenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:33:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. 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Hi Steve, I imaged the Pelican in the backyard of our family home in the Snow Canyon area of St. George, Utah. There is quite a bit of light pollution in the sky so I took 15, four minute luminances and stacked them. The RGB's were 10 each, two minutes, binned 2x2 and stacked. Obviously, with a color camera you would do things much differently. Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:43 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Don, Nice images. Where were you when you imaged the Pelican? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi Steve, Star bloat has nothing to do with collimation but is caused by poor seeing or focusing. Getting accurate focus is not trivial and without Focus Max or a similar program it can be difficult to achieve - particularly with a fast system like yours. If you have round star images throughout the frame your collimation is good. Poor collimation will result in oval images with one side "pinched". This image of the Pelican http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3968 was taken with the same scope you have - FSQ106 at f/5 and I used the FSQ reducer on this one: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3896 . Click on both images for enlarged version. The best way to check for collimation is use a high power eyepiece on a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star and see if you get concentric diffraction rings. Also, be sure the image is centered in the field of view. Clear Skies, Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks, Thanks for the nice comments and input. Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind. I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image. Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh. My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also. Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids. I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures. I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png . Thanks for the comments. Steve Gallenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:33:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. 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Thanks Don I noticed the noise I the darker region and jus messing around with it I did one iteration of Carboni's space noise reduction and masked it to the dark portions It worked pretty good. I have a home in Mesquite and may back yard there is not to bad but getting worse. I have a spot I drive out to in the desert that is quite dark excepting the Western glow of Las Vegas. We should meet sometime. Steve -----Original Message----- From: djcolton@piol.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Cc: Sent: 2014-06-01 07:44:24 GMT Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi Steve, I imaged the Pelican in the backyard of our family home in the Snow Canyon area of St. George, Utah. There is quite a bit of light pollution in the sky so I took 15, four minute luminances and stacked them. The RGB's were 10 each, two minutes, binned 2x2 and stacked. Obviously, with a color camera you would do things much differently. Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:43 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Don, Nice images. Where were you when you imaged the Pelican? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi Steve, Star bloat has nothing to do with collimation but is caused by poor seeing or focusing. Getting accurate focus is not trivial and without Focus Max or a similar program it can be difficult to achieve - particularly with a fast system like yours. If you have round star images throughout the frame your collimation is good. Poor collimation will result in oval images with one side "pinched". This image of the Pelican http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3968 was taken with the same scope you have - FSQ106 at f/5 and I used the FSQ reducer on this one: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3896 . Click on both images for enlarged version. The best way to check for collimation is use a high power eyepiece on a 2nd or 3rd magnitude star and see if you get concentric diffraction rings. Also, be sure the image is centered in the field of view. Clear Skies, Don -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Dear Utah-Astronomy Folks, Thanks for the nice comments and input. Don I was very careful with my focusing this time and as you can see star bloat is an issue. I suspect my previous issue was soft focus and wind. I thought that it would be a good night to learn how to use the Polar Alignment Routine in "Backyard EOS" instead of Image but Murphy did manage to throw a nice wrench at me and I couldn't have been more accurately Polar Aligned out of the gate:The stars would not drift so I decided to Image. Chuck to me anyone who imaged with film had to be an Astronomical Hero. I know that in the back of a previous film images mind there has to be the thought that this stuff is child's play compared to what one had to do when shooting film and hand guiding. It is just astounding to me in that for every 10 good sub frames I acquire I get 1 bad one on a good night and because I can shoot and immediately see my results the learning curve is simpler. I did have a programmable cable for the Canon but I did not have a memory card in the camera..duhh. My big brother, who accompanies me suffers from a great deal of cognitive problems that come free with his nasty case of Parkinson's disease gave me hell for not bringing along the Old Film EOS and a few rolls of Color film. It was a pretty profound thought for him but he use to image with film also. Dave your words are kind and I wish I could keep Murphy at bay but I know the sukkah loves to eat "Driver's". I think he has a taste for DIL..lol.Good luck with the commet. I will be on the beach in California with grandkids. I selected the Lagoon Nebula for three reasons that night: 1. I have never gotten a decent image of it. 2. It is easy to find 3. It is very bright and lends itself to shorter exposures. I like to participate on Yahoo User Group "dslr_astro_image_processing". Mike Smythers who is the Pixisite expert in the group processed my image and this is his version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nux7sizrzuxres8/Steve%27sM8.png . Thanks for the comments. Steve Gallenson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:33:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Nice images. Clearly no collimation problems. -----Original Message----- From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gazebo4sale@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:19 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] M8 unguided with Murphy Hi, Murphy sat down by my side the other night. I had traveled to a dark site at the South Fork of Chalk Creek and set up. I soon found that I had a short in my long exposure cable and the Ascom driver for my Temma 2 mount had vanished into that far off place where lost cyber-stuff goes. I was not able to autoguide but I did manage to splice the exposure cable by flashlight. I aimed the scope at M8 and shot 100 second exposures at ISO 1600 with my Takahashi FSQ 106 N. On the 15th light sub the clouds rolled in. Here is my photo, captured with: Canon T3i Modified by Hutech 14X100" exposures Calibrated with darks, flats and bias in Images Plus. Process using LRGB as per Rosen and Unsold. No guiding. Takahahsi Temma 2 mount. Steve Gallenson http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~galico/M8Web3.jpg _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. 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Daniel, your posts are going to my spam folder as well. Every list post from a yahoo address, bar none, has gone into my spam folder. Everything from Joe has gone to spam. I haven't had a chance to set up a filter yet to see if that helps, hopefully on the weekend. Clicking on individual messages as "not spam" does not help. The very next post from the same sender goes right back into the spam folder. I'm checking the spam folder more regularly until this gets resolved. Rich and Chris (Admins), is there anything you can do? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
Since I'm still using Yahoo mail, you may ironically find this in your spam folder, but I don't believe it's xmission that's doing that -- it should be based on the rules of your email client (in this case, google's gmail). The only list messages that go into my spam folder are an occasional (and nowadays rare) bounce notification. I have a UA folder and filter in place for my yahoo mail, and it all gets directed there nicely. The only problems I see occasionally are the sometimes out-of-order messages (where I see the reply before I see the initial post). Sometimes I never see the initial post, except as what's included in the reply, but I always look in my spam folder, so they aren't going there. Some posts (including a lot of what Joe Bauman posts lately for some reason) don't seem to be delivered, at least as far as I can see. And strangely, lately my own posts don't seem to be showing up either. Looking through the admin options, I'm not seeing anything obvious that could be causing this. Le sigh... /R ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] clear night with no moon Daniel, your posts are going to my spam folder as well. Every list post from a yahoo address, bar none, has gone into my spam folder. Everything from Joe has gone to spam. I haven't had a chance to set up a filter yet to see if that helps, hopefully on the weekend. Clicking on individual messages as "not spam" does not help. The very next post from the same sender goes right back into the spam folder. I'm checking the spam folder more regularly until this gets resolved. Rich and Chris (Admins), is there anything you can do? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
_______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
They fixed it!!! You'll see that messages now have a FROM address that includes "via Utah-Astronomy". The reply-to address now is both the sender's actual e-mail address AND the list address. When you hit REPLY, both addresses will show in your TO field. By doing this, the messages will no longer be flagged as spam and should be delivered correctly. Jared On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Richard Tenney via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Since I'm still using Yahoo mail, you may ironically find this in your spam folder, but I don't believe it's xmission that's doing that -- it should be based on the rules of your email client (in this case, google's gmail). The only list messages that go into my spam folder are an occasional (and nowadays rare) bounce notification.
I have a UA folder and filter in place for my yahoo mail, and it all gets directed there nicely. The only problems I see occasionally are the sometimes out-of-order messages (where I see the reply before I see the initial post). Sometimes I never see the initial post, except as what's included in the reply, but I always look in my spam folder, so they aren't going there. Some posts (including a lot of what Joe Bauman posts lately for some reason) don't seem to be delivered, at least as far as I can see. And strangely, lately my own posts don't seem to be showing up either. Looking through the admin options, I'm not seeing anything obvious that could be causing this.
Le sigh... /R
________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] clear night with no moon
Daniel, your posts are going to my spam folder as well. Every list post from a yahoo address, bar none, has gone into my spam folder. Everything from Joe has gone to spam. I haven't had a chance to set up a filter yet to see if that helps, hopefully on the weekend.
Clicking on individual messages as "not spam" does not help. The very next post from the same sender goes right back into the spam folder.
I'm checking the spam folder more regularly until this gets resolved.
Rich and Chris (Admins), is there anything you can do?
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
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So I can see my last post fine. Interesting. One more thing -- I'm fairly aggressive when it comes to nuking list adds that look like spam emails. If someone signs up for the list with anything remotely suspicious (such as nothing but numbers, or a weird domain name), they are typically deleted. So if you know someone who has tried to sign up for list membership and never got it, have them send me a note personally (off-list to retenney@yahoo.com) stating why they are a legit member. Not that it's been a big problem, everyone new is automatically moderated anyway, FWIW. Carry on... /R ________________________________ From: Richard Tenney via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] clear night with no moon Since I'm still using Yahoo mail, you may ironically find this in your spam folder, but I don't believe it's xmission that's doing that -- it should be based on the rules of your email client (in this case, google's gmail). The only list messages that go into my spam folder are an occasional (and nowadays rare) bounce notification. I have a UA folder and filter in place for my yahoo mail, and it all gets directed there nicely. The only problems I see occasionally are the sometimes out-of-order messages (where I see the reply before I see the initial post). Sometimes I never see the initial post, except as what's included in the reply, but I always look in my spam folder, so they aren't going there. Some posts (including a lot of what Joe Bauman posts lately for some reason) don't seem to be delivered, at least as far as I can see. And strangely, lately my own posts don't seem to be showing up either. Looking through the admin options, I'm not seeing anything obvious that could be causing this. Le sigh... /R ________________________________ From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] clear night with no moon Daniel, your posts are going to my spam folder as well. Every list post from a yahoo address, bar none, has gone into my spam folder. Everything from Joe has gone to spam. I haven't had a chance to set up a filter yet to see if that helps, hopefully on the weekend. Clicking on individual messages as "not spam" does not help. The very next post from the same sender goes right back into the spam folder. I'm checking the spam folder more regularly until this gets resolved. Rich and Chris (Admins), is there anything you can do? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:53 PM, daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
My posts are making to xmission because I can see them in the archives. They just aren't making it back from xmission to my yahoo email account. Other people however are receiving my posts from xmission. I suspect the problem is between xmission and yahoo. Also I haven't seen any posts from Joe Bauman recently and I know he is a frequent poster.
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Chuck Hards -
daniel turner -
Dave Gary -
Don J. Colton -
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Jared Smith -
Joe Bauman -
Richard Tenney -
Wiggins Patrick