I would sure appreciate it if ALL club business were taken off-list. Utah-Astronomy is not now, nor has it ever been a particular club venue. Despite repeated warnings from the list Admin, some club members continue to use the list to discuss their club's politics. If any club or board members would like to discuss club politics, procedure, scheduling, etc., that particular club board meetings are the place to bring it up. And you get cheap diner food as a bonus- at least with my club, lol! (Note: No liver an onions. Shame.) I am a founding member of a local club, the largest in the state, currently support the club as much as I can without negatively affecting my livelihood or family, PAY MY DUES even if I can't attend meetings or events, and have no animosity toward said club at all, but wish to keep Utah-Astronomy "non-deonominational" and all-inclusive. Club business- regardless of the club- has absolutely no venue here, outside of event notices themselves, and "round-ups" and reminicences of such events. Club posters, PLEASE direct your club-related political and procedural posts to your appropriate club officers OFF LIST. You know who you are. A most sincere thank-you. Yes, there is a distinct possibility that I currently have a stick up my a$$. Looking into having it surgically removed, but my medical plan may not cover it. Stay tuned. We now return you to your regular programming. C.