I know you're probably all sick of hearing about this topic by now, but I'm late to get my email read, so apologies up front. For what it's worth, I take no offense to the word geek; my kids have been calling me one (rather fondly actually) for years. Guess it comes with the turf (software engineer and all). Growing up I always kept jars of pet spiders, ant lions, mantis', scorpions, etc., a pretty hefty rock and mineral collection; various aquariums over the years; a total fascination with the ocean (diving and tide pool exploration), photography (still have the old Minolta SRT-101), all things in nature and almost every scientific discipline. Got (and still own) my first "real" telescope (Criterion 6-in Dynascope) back in '72 -- 'been at it a while I guess. I never understood what compelled many of my peers to use drugs -- I was always way too high on the fascinating and wonderful, amazing world we live in. By the way, I've got several of the animal bases covered -- 2 dogs, 3 cats, 4 horses (of varying breeds and ages), and plenty of every variety of fly and wasp imaginable in the summertime... ;o) -Rich __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250