For a proper Scientific debate there needs to be references sited for your data that you are presenting. Always cite your sources, otherwise what you say cannot be accepted as fact only conjecture. I saw no source reference for "The Flying Spaghetti Monster". How do I know it is real or something you just made up without references to the study or theory that states the fact. If you're going to have a debate please follow the proper debate rules. Also No kicking, scratching, punching below the belt, etc... Thank You, Jamie _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".