It is a false assumption to say we need these resources now, renewable sources are being largely ignored. Water is a more important resource than oil and gas in the SW, this shortage is here now.
At some point in time as the population continues to grow, we will need to
access those resources. I think it's a false sense of stewardship to protect some of the areas now protected. We have need for some of those resources now.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com>wrote:
You are mixing up wilderness protection with national parks, Chuck. Parts of national parks are managed for wilderness values but the NPS is also charged with providing for visitors as well as protecting resources. There will be no industrial development in national parks, as mandated by the Park Service's Organic Act. The tracts proposed for development are not in parks. But many of them have been found to have qualities of roadlessness, solitude, and other factord that could qualify them for wilderness protection. One of Utah's most precious resources is its pristine wilderness, which should be protected for the future. -- Joe
------------------------------ On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 8:13 PM MDT Larry Holmes wrote:
Chuck, that could almost apply to any place in Nevada. 73
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On Aug 23, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Affordable energy is an actual need for a lot of people, too, Joe.
Look, I'm not a "drill, baby, drill" advocate. But likewise I haven't found a lot of solitude in most of the National Parks I've visited, at least during 3 seasons of the year. I'm sure you would be mostly alone in January in most of them. They are typically crawling with thousands of people, all crammed into small spaces around the edges of the cordoned-off vistas. The places where visitors are allowed are not wilderness anymore.
You want solitude? Let's go to an isolated place here in the west I know of, about 70 miles north of Battle Mountain, Nevada. Not a foreign tourist, group of bicyclists, or family of of loud kids and dogs, for miles. Just the occassional cow and coyote. And no drilling rigs. No amazing red-rock formations either, but the sky is pretty darn dark.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
And someday the sun will become a planetary nova. But looking at everything from that sort of standpoint is not helpful for our generation's real dilemmas. Wilderness and solitude may be actual needs for some people, including me. -- Joe
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