Hi Chris, Thanks for contributing the link to the article. I think it was a very well sourced article. I'm afraid that a lot of "scientists" have lost objectivity when it comes to human-caused global warming. When we lose objectivity are we really doing science? I do find it very troubling that the UN authors appear to have cooked the books a bit. It's interesting to me that what kept concepts such as the Ptolemaic system and the "flat earth" was itself - consensus. Let's study both sides and let the chips fall where they may. Clear skies, Dale.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy- bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of slas@2nerds.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:31 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Climate chaos?
Hi Chuck,
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Chuck Hards wrote:
What the debate is about, as I understand it, is that the current warming trend has happened far faster and to a greater degree than any historical or pre-historic change for a given amount of time, and it clearly coincides with the huge spike in greenhouse gas emissions of 20th-century industrial growth.
It's unfortunate that you don't have time to review the article posted at the beginning of this thread. One of the theses of that article is that the supposed recent unprecedented rise in global temperature simply does not exist. The author of the article makes the case that the "hockey stick" seen in U.N. temperature graphs is the result of flaws in climate models as well as careful selection ("cherry picking"?) of historical climate data. Indeed, models which show the sudden recent rise in temperature produce the same rise when fed random data. This fact doesn't give me confidence that real science is being done.
Chris
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