As I continue with my pre-retirement downsizing, I am faced with selling two classic Newtonians from Cave Optical Company. Both are highly collectible as well as being outstanding astronomy telescopes. 1. Cave 12.5" Observatory Model. I am the third owner. Very large, deluxe Newtonian on massive observatory equatorial mount. Mirror made in 1967 is in excellent condition and does not need a recoat! Kept in an observatory forty years and in my garage for two, disassembled. Would make a wonderful retirement observatory telescope. 2. Cave 10" Chrom Super Custom Deluxe transportable. Has an 8" Byers drive retrofitted but comes with the stock factory drive, for the collector and purist. I am the second owner. This scope comes with two primary mirrors, the original and a Galaxy mirror that is currently installed and was purchased by the original owner for astro-photography. Comes with a JMI low-profile 2" Crayford focuser installed, and a Tasco (Royal Astro) 77mm guidescope, recently restored by myself. Mounted on casters, so it can be rolled-out of a garage or shed, already set-up. Both of these are large, classic Newtonians that will also appreciate in value over time as an investment. Serious inquiries only, email me at: chuck.hards@gmail.com Thanks for your time!