I believe if you look at all History and Sciences and tried to distill out the absolute truth of it all, if you could only take out the parts that were absolutely proven and correct, you would end up with a lot of little disconnected bits of information that did not make very much sense when all was said and done. History is the story we have of the winners side of the battle. It's the story of the conqueror that did away with the history of the loser. The history of the minority learned man who knew how to read and write and could express his views above that of an uneducated majority populous. The majority of past science is the end result of someone thinking something is a certain way and going out to prove it with scientists misconceptions and arrogance all ready in place, that cloud judgment, and bias outcome. Today's science has a better chance of fact being taken at face value. Blind studies, carbon testing, and DNA will do away with some of the skewing of experiments and studies. Neither science or history are an exact study. They are changeable and fluctuate throughout time depending on what we perceive as "truth". I am not saying that all of science and history are wrong. There are many, many tangible proofs of absolute truth. But you cant deny that many experiments throughout time have been skewed, many "proofs" have been hoaxes or great fakes. Historical "Fact" differs depending on whose eyes it is seen through. I believe what we need to be teaching our children is to look at the whys and wherefores of these two areas being taught, and to use common sense to try to look past what is accepted fact, to see if it is indeed actual fact. We need to teach them that some science being put forth as fact, has indeed never been proven, its just today favorite version of the truth. We need teachers to teach what a theory is, and use the word with science that has not been absolutely proven. We need them to teach that this is only today's version of what we think events were or will be. It does no good to get angry with our teachers, but to face the fact that the truth we want our children to learn will need to come from us. Because each of us holds our own truths, and who better for our children to hear it from than ourselves. As for the religion in science issue. Most of the greatest scientists throughout history believed in a supreme being. Most of them believed in a purposefully ordered universe. The more I see of science, and history, and our universe, and the more scientists discover to be absolute truth, the more apt I am to agree with them. I do believe we need to have absolute and complete separation of church and state to remain free, and able to accept our own truths the way we want to. Every person has the right to believe his own way. Lisa Zeigler www.johnstelescopes.com