PS, as the science writer for the Deseret News for many years, I have studied the debates over global warming in great detail. I am sure I'm entitled to my opinion, and I should be able to state it without someone showering me with sarcasm. It's my judgment that global warming takes place sometimes, that cooling also happens, that climate does fluctuate, and that humans have little to do with it. Sorry if that isn't PC enough for some people. But it's really irritating to be told -- well, just reread with she said and then imagine she is replying to your own note. -- Joe Bauman --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OT - ClimateGate To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:11 AM I guess Jo means we non-scientists have no right to discuss scientific matters. Well, I strongly disagree. -- Joe Bauma n --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Josephine Grahn <bsi@xmission.com> wrote: From: Josephine Grahn <bsi@xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OT - ClimateGate To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:06 AM I am consistently astounded by the number of brilliant scientists we have on this group, the ones that do actual research, study the details, and come to seriously educated conclusions about the important decisions that need to be made for our children and grandchildren. So many published scholars! So many highly educated and widely read individuals! I am amazed and in awe! Quoting Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com>:
Absolutely a good issue to raise. For one thing, we are talking about climate changes on a planet -- it just happens to be ours. I don't want to be the one who says, I told you so, but .... Joe
--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper@sdl.usu.edu> wrote:
From: Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper@sdl.usu.edu> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] OT - ClimateGate To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 10:35 PM
My understanding from past list administrator statements is that this kind of post is "okay" here.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/24/the_fix_is_in_99280.htm...
Hacked emails from the Climatic Research Unit (Britain's University of East Anglia) appear to implicate leading climatologists with scientific fraud.
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