As a veteran of many email kefluffles such as this one, I would like to offer a bit of advice to the participants. If you find 27 emails in your inbasket on a subject, don't start replying to them one by one, read them all first. Someone else may have already expressed your opinion better than you would have. You also miss the warning signs of people leaving the group, a sure sign that off topic has become an irritant. Also you might miss the voice of the moderator warning that any further postings will cause the poster to have his posting privilages revoked. Groups often split up when they can't seem to find a focus. I would have thought that Utah-Astronomy was about the science of Astronomy, not the philosopy of science. Maybe a new group could be formed under the name "Astronomy and Religion". Also: Ten years ago this list might have been 6 guys who all knew eachother by firstnames and this was the place where they got together and discusssed anything they felt like. Today this list has about 200 members most of whom came here to discusss or hear discussion of the science of Astronomy.