Thanks for the thoughts gang. I know the UHP officer that helped us said "Never swerve for anything smaller than your car." Easier said than done. That deer looked bigger than a bus up close but I'm glad my wife did the right thing (froze!) instead of rolling us through the borrow pit. Sorry for your Sister-In-Law Rich. Several cars behind us the person swerved, went sideways through the borrow pit and ended up going the opposite way like nothing happened. I think they were going back home for a change of undies... B) Well, enough of this scary stuff for now, eh... B) Safe observing and I hope everyone gets an auto-stacking video camera or something equally cool for Christmas. I tried to put in my order but he won't let me sit on his lap... B) Tnx de n7zi Gary "Why buy something for ten bucks when you can make it for a hundred.", J.R. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:20 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Off-topic: Weather stations I'm so glad you're safe. Re. Rick's note about his sister-in-law swerving, I had an experience with swerving too. Frank Sinatra was singing "My Way" on the car radio as I drove to work in 1969 or '70. There was a box turtle in the road, I swerved, I hyroplaned (this was in Maryland, where rain actually falls sometimes, and the road was slick), started to go off the road to the right toward a home with a big front window, wrestled the car around so it did not go off that direction, recrossed the road, went off the road to the left, drove into a ditch, rolled and hit a small tree. I crawled out of the overturned wreckage and Frank was still singing. As far as I know the turtle was fine. So yes, I agree, hit the turtle, dog or cat before swerving in a dangerous situation. I'm not sure about a large animal though. Certainly I'd do my best to avoid a moose, horse or cow. I understand moose are a big cause of fatalities in Maine because when a car hits one, the moose is so tall and heavy it goes through the windshield. Best wishes, Joe _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy