Life currently does not allow me to head for the hills for a weekend. I have to be within a short distance of work. I'm basically on-call 24/7. I did my first Marathon over 30 years ago. And Joe: I can see every single M-object from my own back yard in West Valley, Light Pollution Capitol of the World. Why can you only see 3? ;) I do need to find a location with better horizons, however, for the start and finish, and a semi-dark sky is desired for the aesthetic (and to make spotting them a tad easier) I've done this so many times with a telescope that it is no longer that much fun, hence my desire to try it again with large binoculars. Will be my first one done sitting-down! Dave, I'll let you know if I come up with a good local spot. Thanks C. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com