I wasi going to ask who had seen the horsehead in the smallest scope, but Chuck, you blew me away - REALLY???? an 8" dynascope without filter? Should I be calling an exceeding of the Paul B unyan limit o n this one? I've heard some tall telescope tales in my time, but they often turn out to be true . Now my memory is in gear and I remember seeing the North American Nebula at Little Mountain through Dave Chamberlin's scope after a public star party. Think his scope was a 10" home made. Your not supposed to see that in a scope either - at least that is what I was told when I first got in to observing same as being told the horsehead was a photographic only object. The horse head is tough, even with filters. I would never have tried it without a filter. Visual observance of the horsehead is a rare feat, cudos to all who have pulled it off.