Hello -- No Pit, no Lakeside. Did a family camping trip to Rockport. Just fantastic conditions. Milky way band was distinguishable by 10:00 pm. Sister-in-law was there, so did a quick tour with her and the kids. Started before it was really dark with Saturn. Picked out Titan, Rhea, Dione. Shadow from the rings was quite distinct. Moved to some doubles 'til it got really dark. Then the ring, M22, M4, M6, M7, M8, M20, M51, M81/82, Hercules cluster. After the kids went to bed, I went to work and found everything visible from this latitude on Tirion chart #18 that's not on the Herschel list. Good fun. Slept for a while and looked a little bit after Pegasus had come up; just old favorites - M31/32/33/110. Double cluster. Etc. Got up in the morning in time for Jupiter. All in all, pretty good. As far as camping and observing together go, I like Rockport. It's about 40 minutes from my house, and primitive camping (not all that primitive) is only $10. It's dark enough: last year I did some "difficulty level 1" (per O'Meara) Herschels from there without a problem. Some tips: Cottonwood campground there is a great campground, but the light from the entry gate and some big light from an outbuilding are distracting. Twin Coves and Juniper have good sites -- especially if you pick the ones right on the lake, so the trees don't get in the way. Riverside is down below the dam, so you lose some horizon, but there's a big open field there. ---- Rev. Michael A. van Opstall Department of Mathematics, University of Utah Office: JWB 313 opstall@math.utah.edu