That isn't working Joe. Besides, an admins job is exactly what you are reticent to put on their shoulders. If they aren't up to the task of editor, they should quit. I,ve been an admin on a forum. It's a thankless, hateful job. You simply can't do it right and remain everyone's buddy. On Jun 2, 2012 3:44 PM, "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think it should be up to the poster to decide if the discussion would be better taken off-list, not to an administrator -- in the interest of our free-speech policy. Personally, I've been involved in a valuable off-list back-and-forth that began on list, so it's not a bad idea if done voluntarily. But let's not make Patrick into a free-speech policeman. Let's just all behave like grownups and not denigrate others or their comments, and use common sense about what is and isn't interesting to the list as a whole. I hope we're adult enough to take a libertarian approach to discussions. -- Joe
________________________________ From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS business etc.
Sorry about the late response to this issue. I have a personal request relating to this discussion: There is a lot of extraneous chatter on this list about who is going to what observing site and similar topics, often just between two or three people, but the conversations may take place throughout a whole day or two and may consist of details that are not appropriate for the entire list. I've often been away from this account for two or three days and upon returning I may find 30, 40, 50 or more posts, many of which consist of private conversations such as those to which I refer. Yes, I know how to use the delete button but I still like to briefly review all posts if I have time. If Patrick (and others) agree, wouldn't it be more appropriate to take those conversations immediately off-list? I know that I would certainly appreciate it if those list members would do so and eliminate a lot of unnecessary traffic.
Thanks all. Once in awhile it feels good to vent, doesn't it?
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:31 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Club business (Was: Re: transit viewingvolunteers)
I think both of you missed my point, and I'm sorry if I wasn't specific enough. "All things astronomical" needs some qualification.
Patrick has repeatedly asked all of us to not discuss club business on the forum, and that's the point I was trying to make. Siegfried talking about the Harmons event is fine, Steve talking about the museum event if fine, but when it digresses into why something wasn't added to the SLAS calendar, why a SLAS press release wasn't worded differently, why SLAS didn't communicate something to another institution in a particular way, or a corporate donor not getting a higher priority as far as publicizing an event, that's when it seems to me that "talking about astronomy" has digressed into something more apropos a club business or committee meeting. Rather like the bus trip debate/debacle.
I'm going to ask Patrick to weigh in and either reinforce his past judgements on club business/procedural postings, or lift it.
If I'm wrong, then I sincerely apologize. I get official SLAS mailings at another email address and that's the way I like it. Makes it much easier on me not mixing SLAS business with the astro-community at-large. SLAS activities on Utah-astronomy- of course! SLAS business on Utah-astronomy- no thanks.
Thanks for replying, Siegfried and Joe. I value both of your opinions.
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