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meanwhile on Titan
by Joe Bauman 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Speaking of the possibility of life, or lifelike compounds, or pre-life reactions -- check out this interesting NASA release: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/titan20100603.html -- Thanks, Joe

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Black Holes and Active Galaxies
by John R. Peterson 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Today's APOD (December 5)is a good example of a galaxy whose central black hole is no doubt sweeping up lots and lots of matter. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121205.html Imagine if the Milky Way was doing this kind of thing! John R. Peterson

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More on the MSL findings
by Wiggins Patrick 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

For those who might want even more on the recent news from Mars give a listen to this week's episode of Planetary Radio from the Planetary Society. Specifically the interview with the society's Emily Lakdawalla starting at 15:15. http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/planetary-radio/show/2012/20121203-curi… BTW, Planetary Radio is available via free subscription on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/planetary-radio-space-exploration/id916898… patrick

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Voyager 1 new discovery.
by Joe Bauman 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Yes Rodger, all those were exciting. I remember too the thrill of early automated moon landings -- and ones that weren't landings but deliberate crashes in which the probe took as many images as possible as it bore in closer and closer until that final close-up partial frame. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 7:26 AM MST Rodger C. Fry wrote: >Michael, > >It is interesting to read your impression of the exciting astronomical news >coming out today and how you wish they had such great news when you were >growing up in grade school. It is great news but I see a generation gap is >present. > >When I was in grade-school, I remember Sputnik being sent into space and >spending several evening trying to see it and eventually being successful. >I remember the announcement of Yuri Gagarin went into space which shocked >the U S citizens. I clearly remember when Alan Shepard was sent on his sub >orbital ride and when John Glenn took his 3-orbit flight. When Apollo 11 >flight took its historic flight and landing on the moon, I was on a college >field trip at Fossil Butte Wyoming, huddled around our professor's Suburban >listening to the final decent of the Eagle Lander. It doesn't get more >exciting than that. > >I was lucky to grow up during the birth of the space age. I was also lucky >to be a true geek and have the insight as to the significance of each step >that was taken. > >Exciting times have definitely arrived as far as space exploration is >concerned. It will be incredibly interesting to see what is to come in the >next ten to twenty years. > >Thanks >Rodger C. Fry > >-----Original Message----- >From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Michael >Wells >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:14 PM >To: Utah Astronomy >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Voyager 1 new discovery. > >Yeah, I noticed that part. Definitely behaving in an interesting way, that's >for sure. As much as I wouldn't want to be a grade school student today, the >70's-80's had almost nothing exciting compared to now. Sure, we started the >shuttle program, and things like Voyager went up. I also remember when they >discovered rings around Uranus(Due to the obvious joke), but that was pretty >much it. Kids nowdays have something new hitting the classroom pretty much >every week now, between the amazing stellar pictures from our array of >telescopes, other probes, such as Cassini, and the stuff from the Mars >rovers. Awesome stuff. > > >On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Daniel Holmes ><danielh(a)holmesonics.com>wrote: > >> What I got from the article is that they didn't expect to see the rise >> of interstellar particles while also seeing the Sun's magnetic >> field--the field lines of interstellar space lining up with the Sun's >> field lines. A region where both sets of particles mingled I think was >> expected, but this region allows the particles to move between regions >much easier. >> >> Near the bottom of the article: >> >> "The researchers suspect they've reached a region of the >> solar-interstellar boundary that nobody had predicted. In this area, >> the magnetic field lines of the Sun link up with those of the >> interstellar field. Scientists are calling this linkage a "highway" >> for particles to travel along. It lets solar wind particles escape >> more readily, causing the drop in their intensity. And it opens the >> door for low-energy cosmic rays to slip in to our Solar System, which >> is why Voyager 1 is seeing so may of them." >> >> Dan >> >> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Michael Wells >> <eyeonyouproductions(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Seems like what I would have expected, not a sudden shift from our >> > Sun's particles to those from "outside", but a neutral zone where >> > they both >> seem >> > to equally counteract each other. In perspective to stellar >> > distances, >> this >> > still could be considered a super thin line, 122 A.U. is nothing n >> > the grand scheme of things, and that's Voyager I's total trip so >> > far, not >> just >> > the part where they thought the soloar system would end and the >> > universe proper would begin. >> > >> > Then again, I'm no scientist, so what would I know? >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Daniel Holmes >> ><danielh(a)holmesonics.com >> >wrote: >> > >> > It discovered a previously unknown edge of the solar system boundary. >> > Pretty cool stuff. >> > >> > >> > >> http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/voyager-1-spots-new-region-at-t >> he-edge-of-the-solar-system/ >> > >> > Dan >> > >> > -- >> > Daniel Holmes, danielh(a)holmesonics.com "Laugh while you can, monkey >> > boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any >> > astronomy >> club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >> -- >> Daniel Holmes, danielh(a)holmesonics.com "Laugh while you can, monkey >> boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >"Unsubscribe or edit options". > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Original model DSI
by Dave Gary 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Dan, Yep, the original model DSI. It seems to work with the Macbook Pro using Nebulosity 3.0. I don’t have to launch the Windoze emulator to run this camera. That’s nice for me as I’m a Mac fan. I found the camera stuffed out in the garage, yesterday, and thought I might give it a try. I’ll work with it some more when I get the time. Probably, near the end of December. Dave

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] The Curiosity Kerfuffle
by erikhansen＠thebluezone.net 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

>Starvation and Dehydration would get you 1st. Short periods of time is correct. With only traces of a magnetosphere, > Mars is a very hazardous place for humans to be for long. Without some > significant shielding available to humans, to stay long on the surface > would be like playing Russian roulette. One good belch of solar wind > aimed at Mars and, well, it would not be pretty. > > Now, if we could bring in a large asteroid into orbit around Mars, that > would cause sufficient tidal forces to re-melt the iron core and perhaps > get the magnetosphere going again. But watch out for the volcanoes as > they would start up again. I'm just sayin'... :) > > Mat > > -----Original Message----- > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:32 AM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] The Curiosity Kerfuffle > >>The news interviewed one of the scientists, they mentioned finding trace > amounts of carbon. Seems they are still in the debris field, so it might > have been carbon from Curiosity. I did hear they are measuring > radioactivity on the surface and it is within human tolerances for short > periods, but long enough for a manned mission to Mars. > > > Here (form the Planetary Society) is a good explanation of what caused all >> the stir about Curiosity recently. >> >> patrick >> >> http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/12031316-curiosity-ker… >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Send messages to the list to > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > > To unsubscribe go to: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on > "Unsubscribe or edit options". > > This message and any attachments are solely for the use of intended > recipients. The information contained herein may include trade secrets, > protected health or personal information, privileged or otherwise > confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, > copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited > and may be unlawful. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that you received this email in error, and that any review, > dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and any attachment is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please > contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your > system. Thank you for your cooperation > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Send messages to the list to > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > > To unsubscribe go to: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >

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Money in the Hole
by Dave Gary 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Larry, I’m glad you got the wifi unit to work. Too bad neither of us are “rich beyond the dreams of avarice”..can’t remember where I heard that one…or we could just buy a nice observatory and have someone teach us how to run it. As it is, I’m doing the same as you. Buy a few things here and there, try to learn how to use them and not go crazy trying. For some reason there seems to be a very steep learning curve associated with all this astronomy stuff. My learning processor seems to fade with each passing day making life more difficult with all this image processing to be done. How to stack, how to drizzle, the list goes on and on. I need some kid around to show me how all this stuff actually works…sort of like when you try to hook all the components up on your new TV or sit staring at that brand new cell phone. Without the kid you’re watching the old TV in the bedroom and all those bells and whistles on the cell phone don’t mean much because you just open it to answer and close it when you’re done. Of course, I hate phones. Dave

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Jupiter ~ 20:00 MST 3 December 2012
by Dave Gary 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Image of Jupiter I took last night with Meade DSI. The post-processing was that I made the image black-and-white. One of these days I’ll learn how to use Nebulosity as it was meant to be used. Dave http://www.flickr.com/photos/78046474@N06/8243772240/in/set-721576321678901…

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The Curiosity Kerfuffle
by Wiggins Patrick 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Here (form the Planetary Society) is a good explanation of what caused all the stir about Curiosity recently. patrick http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/12031316-curiosity-ker…

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Voyager and MSL
by Wiggins Patrick 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

For those wanting to listen to recordings of today's Voyager and MSL media telecons at JPL: http://www.ustream.tv/new/explore/technology/all?subCategory=technology-sci… Also, while flying back from the Fillmore area today I happened to catch the setting Sun reflecting off a long, sinuous river. Unfortunately my picture does not do it justice but to the eye it reminded me of some of some pictures I've seen of large rivers as seen from space: http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/river.jpg patrick

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