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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Mars "thingy" updates
by Kim Hyatt 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

Patrick wrote: > >Where'd it go? Aren't there still winds on Mars? -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wiggins [mailto:paw@trilobyte.net] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:38 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Mars "thingy" updates Paul Witte wrote: > > My friend just sent me this link from a conspiracy website: > > http://rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM > > They are claiming the rover ran over the object in question as part of a "coverup". Note that he mentions that the picture has been removed from the NASA web site. Not so. I just checked and it is still there: 300 kB version http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040202a/MSPan_B1_ 2x-B009R1_br2.jpg 9 MB version http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040202a/MSPan_B1_ 2x-B009R1.jpg Of course (and I add this just to spice up the conversation) it does seem odd that the object does not seem to be visible in the roll off series: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040206a/F_HAZ_Lin earized_Egress_To_Wall_Anima_br.gif Where'd it go? Patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] BB and Mars "thingy" updates
by Paul Witte 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

My friend just sent me this link from a conspiracy website: http://rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM They are claiming the rover ran over the object in question as part of a "coverup". Looking at the pictures it's hard to tell if it went in exactly the direction of the object, but if the rover did in fact run over it this is going to keep the conspiracy theorists going for YEARS (like the Roswell story). Their logic eludes me, if NASA didn't want us to know about "alien life on mars" why do they keep sending probes to take pictures & search for water which might have given rise to past life on mars? ---------- From: Patrick Wiggins Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] BB and Mars "thingy" updates Bowling Ball Drop I flew over the "approved" bowling ball drop zone today and am happy to report the designated area is very big and devoid of obstacles. It will be hard to miss. There's still a lot of snow out there and the ground that has no snow on it looks pretty muddy so chances are this is not going to happen for a few weeks, at least. After landing I spoke with a guy at the FAA who assured me they only needed to get involved "if something goes wrong." And then after getting home I called the land owner and reconfirmed we have permission (actually she said she really wants to see it happen). "Thingy" On Mars I just spoke with my contact at NASA. She had not heard of the object but said that she'd passed my query on to someone who works with the imaging team. More on that when I hear more. Patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Mars "thingy" updates
by Kim Hyatt 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

Yeah, I'm stuck at the office again. Not by choice, mind you. No, Chuck, I didn't see your email. Our server was down for some time this morning - don't know when it happened - had to call in the "geek" to get it back up. Your email (for me, anyway) is somewhere out there in the ether... Off to lunch for a few, but back for the duration later. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:33 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Mars "thingy" updates That was my point a few hours ago, did my post not come through? Kim, are you working on a Saturday again? Careful, you're on the road to Chuckhood... C. --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt(a)smithlayton.com> wrote: > Patrick wrote: > > > >Where'd it go? > > Aren't there still winds on Mars? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Bidding lander adieu
by Kim Hyatt 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

What a great shot! For me, this is as "cool" as Neil Armstrong's first bootprints on the Moon. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Wiggins [mailto:paw@trilobyte.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:01 PM To: utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Bidding lander adieu Opportunity looks back towards the lander as it heads off towards the horizon. Note the bounce marks to the right. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/status/opportunity/20040205a/020504z_ 1R129255699EFF0242P1211L0M1.jpg Patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] BB and Mars "thingy" updates
by Kim Hyatt 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

As we all know, conspiracy enthusiasts need no logic to justify their warped perception of people and the world around them. My undergraduate training is in psychology - social psychology to be more precise. It was fascinating to learn that many cultures have very specific neuroses and psychoses that are unique to that culture. Unfortunately I can no longer recall examples, but I'm thinking that persons disposed to thinking always in terms of "conspiracy" have serious issues, besides simply bing weird. In other words the appellation that they are "nuts" is probably more correct than they know. > -----Original Message----- > From: paul(a)linkrealms.com [mailto:paul@linkrealms.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:04 AM > To: 'Utah Astronomy' > Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] BB and Mars "thingy" updates > > My friend just sent me this link from a conspiracy website: > > http://rense.com/general48/NASAA.HTM > > They are claiming the rover ran over the object in question as part of a > "coverup". Looking at the pictures it's hard to tell if it went in > exactly the direction of the object, but if the rover did in fact run over > it this is going to keep the conspiracy theorists going for YEARS (like > the Roswell story). Their logic eludes me, if NASA didn't want us to know > about "alien life on mars" why do they keep sending probes to take > pictures & search for water which might have given rise to past life on > mars? > > ---------- > From: Patrick Wiggins > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:28 PM > To: utah astronomy listserve > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] BB and Mars "thingy" updates > > Bowling Ball Drop > > I flew over the "approved" bowling ball drop zone today and am happy > to report > the designated area is very big and devoid of obstacles. It will be > hard to miss. > > There's still a lot of snow out there and the ground that has no > snow on it > looks pretty muddy so chances are this is not going to happen for a > few weeks, > at least. > > After landing I spoke with a guy at the FAA who assured me they only > needed to > get involved "if something goes wrong." > > And then after getting home I called the land owner and reconfirmed > we have > permission (actually she said she really wants to see it happen). > > > "Thingy" On Mars > > I just spoke with my contact at NASA. She had not heard of the > object but said > that she'd passed my query on to someone who works with the imaging > team. > > More on that when I hear more. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > << File: ATT03192.txt >>

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BB and Mars "thingy" updates
by Patrick Wiggins 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Bowling Ball Drop I flew over the "approved" bowling ball drop zone today and am happy to report the designated area is very big and devoid of obstacles. It will be hard to miss. There's still a lot of snow out there and the ground that has no snow on it looks pretty muddy so chances are this is not going to happen for a few weeks, at least. After landing I spoke with a guy at the FAA who assured me they only needed to get involved "if something goes wrong." And then after getting home I called the land owner and reconfirmed we have permission (actually she said she really wants to see it happen). "Thingy" On Mars I just spoke with my contact at NASA. She had not heard of the object but said that she'd passed my query on to someone who works with the imaging team. More on that when I hear more. Patrick

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Bidding lander adieu
by Patrick Wiggins 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Opportunity looks back towards the lander as it heads off towards the horizon. Note the bounce marks to the right. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/status/opportunity/20040205a/020504z… Patrick

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Any landing you can walk away from... (OT)
by Patrick Wiggins 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Not astronomy related but the list has been kind of slow lately and I know there are a bunch of aviators on this list that might appreciate these links: Mountain Home last year: http://www.avweb.com/newspics/DavisTbirdEject.jpg Why gear should not be retracted *before* getting airborne: http://www.seaislandrc.com/video/mig29_garnaev_crash.mpeg Patrick

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Jim got a new scope
by Griffin Louis A Civ OO-ALC/MAKGBA 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

What kind? Size? etc..... -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:51 AM To: Utah-Astro Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Jim got a new scope Jim Gibson just got a new scope, folks, so the clouds are now officially his fault! Way to go, Jim, tell us your impressions when you've had a chance to look through it. C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Jim got a new scope
by Chuck Hards 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Jim Gibson just got a new scope, folks, so the clouds are now officially his fault! Way to go, Jim, tell us your impressions when you've had a chance to look through it. C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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