February 2004 - Utah-Astronomy - mailman.xmission.com

RE: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again)
by Kim Hyatt 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Remember, NASA is now missing two of its original fleet of space shuttles. The dangers have increased. -----Original Message----- From: B. Bettilyon [mailto:aaah@sisna.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:21 AM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) IMHO, this is a bunch crap! NASA has become impotent. They already serviced the Hubble once.(or is it twice?). Does this mean it was too dangerous to do last time around, but they said "What the hell, let's risk some lives just for fun?" Or are they just looking for a way to kill the program so as to have more money to dump down the Moon Base rat hole? Barney B. FROM PATRICK'S NEWS: The verdict seems final: NASA says it is just too risky for shuttle astronauts to fix the Hubble Space Telescope, which means an early death for the world's premier astronomical eye in the sky. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040208_145.html <http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040208_145.html>

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Martian spheroids
by Chuck Hards 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

This has been nagging the back of my brainstem for a couple of days, but I finally pinned it down. I'm fairly sure that Earthly analogies of these little spheres have been found at sites like Pompeii & Herculaneum. Something about volcanic ash & torrential rain. That's about all I can recall at the moment, I'll do some research as time permits and pass on anything of value. If things rings a bell with another list member, please post what you remember. C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Model Hubble
by Chuck Hards 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

I found a neat model kit of the Hubble telescope (as well as other spacecraft) here: http://www.spacetoys.com/space/papermodels.shtml The price isn't bad, and the detail is outstanding for a die-cut paper model. It appears to be the Hubble telescope as newly deployed. You'll need some gold foil and a few other items from the craft store to update it to it's current configuration, using photos from the last service call as a guide. Or leave it ex-works, brand spanking new. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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OT - Frontiers of Science public lecture Feb. 18
by Richard Tenney 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

FWIW, I've very much enjoyed all the lectures in this series to date. -Rich Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Mars "thingy" update
by Patrick Wiggins 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

I emailed a reporter who attends the MER briefings about the odd object we've been discussing here. Here is his reply: ********** "A number of readers have asked about the "bunny" image. In fact, right after last Friday's press conference, I did actually ask one of the scientists about the "bunny." He knew exactly what I was referring to, and said there had been much discussion about it. The consensus is that it's most likely a piece of debris from the spacecraft, probably a piece of torn airbag material. At some point, they hope to point the IR spectroscope (mini-TES) at it to determine its composition, which would prove its nature for sure." ********** I guess that's assuming, of course, that it hasn't walked off in the mean time. (Disclaimer: I'm kidding!) Patrick

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Today's Mars pictures
by Patrick Wiggins 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

The pictures from today's news briefing are now posted. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040209a.html This is the shot that shows the ground littered with the spheres discussed here earlier: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040209a/Snout_R1… Patrick

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Mars news
by Patrick Wiggins 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

This'll be going in News tomorrow morning but for my fellow space junkies that cant wait, today's MER news briefing on NASA TV showed new images showing where the second lander landed. They are not on the official site yet (11:55 am) but they are on Malin's site: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/02/09/index.html I especially like the one showing back shell and parachute (and even the shroud lines!) laying in the distance. There was also a good deal of discussion about the tiny spheres of dirt in today's briefing. Hopefully that will be in the next news release which I will include in News tomorrow. Patrick

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again)
by Kim Hyatt 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Redundancy, or loss thereof? At least I believe that's one reason. -----Original Message----- From: B. Bettilyon [mailto:aaah@sisna.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:18 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) Please explain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Watson" <brentjwatson(a)yahoo.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) > The danger is the same, but the relative risk is > greater. > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again)
by Kim Hyatt 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

OK, OK... semantics. Brent said what I meant. Thanks Brent. -----Original Message----- From: Brent Watson [mailto:brentjwatson@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) The danger is the same, but the relative risk is greater. --- "B. Bettilyon" <aaah(a)sisna.com> wrote: > Kim, I'm not sure what you mean. What do missing > ships have to do with safety? NASA always claimed > that even in an emergency, there would be nearly a > two week turn around (at best) between shuttle > launches. > > Even if they had 10 ships the danger would be (has > been) the same. > > Barney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kim Hyatt > To: 'Utah Astronomy' > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:29 AM > Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) > > > Remember, NASA is now missing two of its original > fleet of space shuttles. The dangers have increased. > -----Original Message----- > From: B. Bettilyon [mailto:aaah@sisna.com] > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:21 AM > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Hubble (Again) > > > IMHO, this is a bunch crap! NASA has become > impotent. They already serviced the Hubble once.(or > is it twice?). Does this mean it was too dangerous > to do last time around, but they said "What the > hell, let's risk some lives just for fun?" Or are > they just looking for a way to kill the program so > as to have more money to dump down the Moon Base rat > hole? > > Barney B. > > > FROM PATRICK'S NEWS: > The verdict seems final: NASA says it is just > too risky for shuttle astronauts > to fix the Hubble Space Telescope, which means > an early death for the world's > premier astronomical eye in the sky. > > > http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040208_145.html > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: > http://www.utahastronomy.com > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: > http://www.utahastronomy.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Hubble (Again)
by B. Bettilyon 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

IMHO, this is a bunch crap! NASA has become impotent. They already serviced the Hubble once.(or is it twice?). Does this mean it was too dangerous to do last time around, but they said "What the hell, let's risk some lives just for fun?" Or are they just looking for a way to kill the program so as to have more money to dump down the Moon Base rat hole? Barney B. FROM PATRICK'S NEWS: The verdict seems final: NASA says it is just too risky for shuttle astronauts to fix the Hubble Space Telescope, which means an early death for the world's premier astronomical eye in the sky. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040208_145.html

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