Re: (usr-tc) To many drops after connect
I have TC, Ascend maxen, cisco, portmaster3, 5399/8000(oldbay) CVX, Looking for new LU! I got a BIG LAB! Alan At 12:25 PM 1/21/2000 -0600, Brian wrote:
You all using 3Com Total Control NAS's over there at Nortel Networks? :)
Brian
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Alan Martin wrote:
Every once in awhile sanity reigns.
At 11:58 AM 1/21/2000 -0600, Steve Valiunas wrote:
This might not be the case in your situation since you say the
same user
dials many times in a row, but just because a call has less than a minute of connect time doesn't necessarily mean that it is a failed call. If your customers are set to automatically connect/check Email/drop as with AOL FlashSessions, CC-Mail, LotusNotes etc., then this is normal. A misconfigured dial-on-demand connection might account for it as well, as might a user not satisfied with 44K and trying for that 53K connection. If there was a large jump in the percentage of short calls after changing codes that might be another story though. You might want to also look at some of your other accounting data, such as Do these session stops have normal disconnect reasons? Did the user get assigned a valid IP? Was any data passed on the sessions?
Steve
"The NOC \(COX Internet\)" <usrtc@tyler.net> on 01/21/2000 11:04:53 AM
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Paul,
How did you find out this information on Total calls lost? Is it possible to find this out on the old Total Control equipment also?
Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet
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hello all
still fighting with TC to try and get decent connection performance out of the thing.
flashed the ARC/NMC/DSP to 4.1.22/6.2.17/2.0.60 and here are some frighting stats:
Total Calls (from radius): 66212 Calls of < 1 minute in length: 9266
Thats a 14% drop rate! It seems to hit some people in bulk... it they dial in 5-10 times and then they just give up.
I tried to narrow it down to a specific slot/channel but thier dosen't seem to be a pattern.
Anyone else seeing similiar results??? All circuits are PRI.
Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Alan Martin wrote:
I have TC, Ascend maxen, cisco, portmaster3, 5399/8000(oldbay) CVX, Looking for new LU! I got a BIG LAB!
thats good, hopefully 3com has a big lab too, testing a bunch of client modems against their code :). And of course the equipment you have found work best in your lab is the nortel stuff right? :) Brian
Alan
At 12:25 PM 1/21/2000 -0600, Brian wrote:
You all using 3Com Total Control NAS's over there at Nortel Networks? :)
Brian
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Alan Martin wrote:
Every once in awhile sanity reigns.
At 11:58 AM 1/21/2000 -0600, Steve Valiunas wrote:
This might not be the case in your situation since you say the
same user
dials many times in a row, but just because a call has less than a minute of connect time doesn't necessarily mean that it is a failed call. If your customers are set to automatically connect/check Email/drop as with AOL FlashSessions, CC-Mail, LotusNotes etc., then this is normal. A misconfigured dial-on-demand connection might account for it as well, as might a user not satisfied with 44K and trying for that 53K connection. If there was a large jump in the percentage of short calls after changing codes that might be another story though. You might want to also look at some of your other accounting data, such as Do these session stops have normal disconnect reasons? Did the user get assigned a valid IP? Was any data passed on the sessions?
Steve
"The NOC \(COX Internet\)" <usrtc@tyler.net> on 01/21/2000 11:04:53 AM
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Paul,
How did you find out this information on Total calls lost? Is it possible to find this out on the old Total Control equipment also?
Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Farber" <farber@admin.f-tech.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: (usr-tc) To many drops after connect
hello all
still fighting with TC to try and get decent connection performance out of the thing.
flashed the ARC/NMC/DSP to 4.1.22/6.2.17/2.0.60 and here are some frighting stats:
Total Calls (from radius): 66212 Calls of < 1 minute in length: 9266
Thats a 14% drop rate! It seems to hit some people in bulk... it they dial in 5-10 times and then they just give up.
I tried to narrow it down to a specific slot/channel but thier dosen't seem to be a pattern.
Anyone else seeing similiar results??? All circuits are PRI.
Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
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Howdy Brian, Do you know where I might be able to download the T1-PRI code version 3.1.5? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, The NOC (COX Internet) wrote:
Howdy Brian,
Do you know where I might be able to download the T1-PRI code version 3.1.5? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
www.totalservice.com? (not trying to be sarcastic)...........if I ran dual pri card, I might be able to offer you a, ahem, alternate location, but I do not, so sorry :) Brian
Thanks, Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet
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What is the general consensus on HiPer ARC 4.2.32-1 code? Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake The NOC COX Internet"
What is the general consensus on HiPer ARC 4.2.32-1 code?
Working fine here...though I am still stearing clear of enabling OSPF. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
did you gain anything between 4.2 vs 4.1? Brian On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
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What is the general consensus on HiPer ARC 4.2.32-1 code?
Working fine here...though I am still stearing clear of enabling OSPF. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Thus spake Brian
did you gain anything between 4.2 vs 4.1?
I went to 4.2 initially to pick up the security fixes that are now available in 4.1.22. So at this point, had I not already gone to 4.2 I probably wouldn't, but at the time, I felt it was necessary. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
I think what I hear is that 4.2 you really only need to goto if you want OSPF. And that the OSPF in 4.2 is flaky anyways. So 4.2 doesn't sound to production ready yet. Brian On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, The NOC (COX Internet) wrote:
What is the general consensus on HiPer ARC 4.2.32-1 code?
Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet
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I would be happy to hear what others think of 3coms implementation of OSPF? We have been testing it on 4 boxes for afew months now and have noticed one major flaw. If an 8 character auth_key is used it has to be entered anytime the box reboots. Krish, maybe you can look into this. I confirmed this in my own testing using numerous combinations of 4-8 character ospf keys and ONLY 8 character keys cause this bug. Brian wrote:
I think what I hear is that 4.2 you really only need to goto if you want OSPF. And that the OSPF in 4.2 is flaky anyways. So 4.2 doesn't sound to production ready yet.
Brian
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Rick wrote:
I would be happy to hear what others think of 3coms implementation of OSPF?
We have been testing it on 4 boxes for afew months now and have noticed one major flaw. If an 8 character auth_key is used it has to be entered anytime the box reboots.
Krish, maybe you can look into this. I confirmed this in my own testing using numerous combinations of 4-8 character ospf keys and ONLY 8 character keys cause this bug.
Hmmm.. So a 8 charecter authkey for OSPF will reboot the ARC., Bad - will check it out and hopefully it is already fixed in later ER versions will let you know regards krish
Brian wrote:
I think what I hear is that 4.2 you really only need to goto if you want OSPF. And that the OSPF in 4.2 is flaky anyways. So 4.2 doesn't sound to production ready yet.
Brian
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Tatai SV Krishnan wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Rick wrote:
I would be happy to hear what others think of 3coms implementation of OSPF?
We have been testing it on 4 boxes for afew months now and have noticed one major flaw. If an 8 character auth_key is used it has to be entered anytime the box reboots.
Krish, maybe you can look into this. I confirmed this in my own testing using numerous combinations of 4-8 character ospf keys and ONLY 8 character keys cause this bug.
Hmmm.. So a 8 charecter authkey for OSPF will reboot the ARC., Bad - will check it out and hopefully it is already fixed in later ER versions will let you know
regards
krish
Krish, an 8 character does NOT make the arc reboot. Rather an arc does not retain an 8 character ospf key once rebooted. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rick Allan / rick@monmouth.com | Connect to a Backbone not a Wishbone Head of Network Engineering | Monmouth Internet Corporation 732-842-5366=====extension 102 | http://www.monmouth.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Rick wrote:
Krish, an 8 character does NOT make the arc reboot. Rather an arc does not retain an 8 character ospf key once rebooted.
We have noticed the same. -- Jeff Carneal - Sys Admin - Apex Internet jeff@apex.net http://www.apex.net (270) 442-5363 The opinions expressed above aren't really mine. They belong to someone else who also refuses to take responsibility for them. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Yipe. That one I hadn't run into, but check the archives of the list and you'll find multiple posts from me describing other OSPF problems we've had. I won't bore everyone else by repeating it yet again here. :) Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, Shelbyville "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Rick wrote:
I would be happy to hear what others think of 3coms implementation of OSPF?
We have been testing it on 4 boxes for afew months now and have noticed one major flaw. If an 8 character auth_key is used it has to be entered anytime the box reboots.
Krish, maybe you can look into this. I confirmed this in my own testing using numerous combinations of 4-8 character ospf keys and ONLY 8 character keys cause this bug.
Brian wrote:
I think what I hear is that 4.2 you really only need to goto if you want OSPF. And that the OSPF in 4.2 is flaky anyways. So 4.2 doesn't sound to production ready yet.
Brian
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