Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Yes "WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM Please respond to usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Sent by: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> cc: Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released Is CEM required for 4.7? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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Wonders how many have left 3com for other products since the v.92 Scam. -- Ed
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)? Thanks, Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Yes
"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
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Is CEM required for 4.7?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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I've heard informally that it's sold "by chassis" and that it's about $700 for up to 5 chasses. What I haven't heard yet is why TCM had to be replaced or what features CEM has that TCM doesn't. Seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)?
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
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"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
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Is CEM required for 4.7?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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Maybe something to do with snmpv3? Todd -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Seth Jacobs Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:17 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released I've heard informally that it's sold "by chassis" and that it's about $700 for up to 5 chasses. What I haven't heard yet is why TCM had to be replaced or what features CEM has that TCM doesn't. Seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)?
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
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"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
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----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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Dunno, I tried the demo version of CEM and it just seemed overly complex. Yet another thing for the small ISP to worry about training people to use. TCM was nice and simple. But maybe I just haven't fiddled with CEM enough. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bertolozzi" <berto@voyager.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Maybe something to do with snmpv3?
Todd
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Seth Jacobs Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:17 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
I've heard informally that it's sold "by chassis" and that it's about $700 for up to 5 chasses.
What I haven't heard yet is why TCM had to be replaced or what features CEM has that TCM doesn't.
Seth
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)?
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
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"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
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To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> cc: Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Is CEM required for 4.7?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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Sheessh, if TCM looks simple in comparison to CEM, I'm in real trouble... :) Seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brown" <steve@neteze.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Dunno, I tried the demo version of CEM and it just seemed overly complex. Yet another thing for the small ISP to worry about training people to use. TCM was nice and simple. But maybe I just haven't fiddled with CEM enough.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bertolozzi" <berto@voyager.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Maybe something to do with snmpv3?
Todd
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Seth Jacobs Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:17 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
I've heard informally that it's sold "by chassis" and that it's about $700 for up to 5 chasses.
What I haven't heard yet is why TCM had to be replaced or what features CEM has that TCM doesn't.
Seth
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)?
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
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"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
Please respond to usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com
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To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> cc: Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Is CEM required for 4.7?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com.
This system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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Hi All Can someone point me to a site that can tell me the difference or give me a quick and simple explanation between Idsl Adsl Sdsl etc. And if any are compatable to each other Craig
I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems! So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems. I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change) o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers. I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies. ACT NOW Steve
I'M IN!... we aren't exactly a 'small' ISP (over 4000 ports). I also can maybe encourage other ISP's in Ohio (via www.oispa.org). I have heard enough lies and broken promises from 3com over the years. We litterally spent millions with them... and they turned their backs on us with v.92. (Sorry it's NOT afford to upgrade with 4000 ports! It should be free if our hardware is capable and we have bought the kind of volume we have. With other vendors it would have been done for free.. This has been confirmed.) I am sure our clout as a group with our customers will lead to a downturn in their sales. -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. -- -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:51 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] Call to Action I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems! So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems. I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change) o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers. I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies. ACT NOW Steve _______________________________________________ USR-TC mailing list USR-TC@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc
Exactly.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I'M IN!... we aren't exactly a 'small' ISP (over 4000 ports). I also can maybe encourage other ISP's in Ohio (via www.oispa.org). I have heard enough lies and broken promises from 3com over the years. We litterally spent millions with them... and they turned their backs on us with v.92. (Sorry it's NOT afford to upgrade with 4000 ports! It should be free if our hardware is capable and we have bought the kind of volume we have. With other vendors it would have been done for free.. This has been confirmed.)
I am sure our clout as a group with our customers will lead to a downturn in their sales.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. --
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:51 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems!
So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems.
I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change)
o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever
If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me
To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign
Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers.
I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies.
ACT NOW
Steve
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Are CommWorks and USR even under the same company anymore? Didn't the USR modem division get spun off onto a completely different company? Seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Infoblvd Support" <Support@infoblvd.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action
Exactly....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I'M IN!... we aren't exactly a 'small' ISP (over 4000 ports). I also can maybe encourage other ISP's in Ohio (via www.oispa.org). I have heard enough lies and broken promises from 3com over the years. We litterally spent millions with them... and they turned their backs on us with v.92. (Sorry it's NOT afford to upgrade with 4000 ports! It should be free if our hardware is capable and we have bought the kind of volume we have. With other vendors it would have been done for free.. This has been confirmed.)
I am sure our clout as a group with our customers will lead to a downturn in their sales.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. --
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:51 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems!
So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems.
I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change)
o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever
If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me
To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign
Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers.
I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies.
ACT NOW
Steve
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Commworks and USR are no longer part of the same company. 3Com spun off the consumer analog modem division (USR) about 2 years ago. 3Com might still own a fraction of USR, but I don't know for sure. Commworks also seems to be operating independently of 3Com (other than that little "a 3Com Company" after the Commworks name on their website). Jared Valentine hidden@xmission.com -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Seth Jacobs Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:31 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action Are CommWorks and USR even under the same company anymore? Didn't the USR modem division get spun off onto a completely different company? Seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Infoblvd Support" <Support@infoblvd.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action
Exactly....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I'M IN!... we aren't exactly a 'small' ISP (over 4000 ports). I also can maybe encourage other ISP's in Ohio (via www.oispa.org). I have heard enough lies and broken promises from 3com over the years. We litterally spent millions with them... and they turned their backs on us with v.92. (Sorry it's NOT afford to upgrade with 4000 ports! It should be free if our hardware is capable and we have bought the kind of volume we have. With other vendors it would have been done for free.. This has been confirmed.)
I am sure our clout as a group with our customers will lead to a downturn in their sales.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. --
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:51 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems!
So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems.
I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change)
o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever
If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me
To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign
Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers.
I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies.
ACT NOW
Steve
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Jared Valentine wrote:
Commworks and USR are no longer part of the same company. 3Com spun off the consumer analog modem division (USR) about 2 years ago. 3Com might still own a fraction of USR, but I don't know for sure.
Commworks also seems to be operating independently of 3Com (other than that little "a 3Com Company" after the Commworks name on their website).
Hmmm, same asshole policies in place I see. So much for independent thought in America. -Ron
They haven't done squat for us in the past (re: service contracts, pricing, upgrades) and 3 years ago there were MANY more USR/3COM installed ISP's). Face it, unless you are an Earthlink, AOL or MSN they don't (and time has proven they don't) give a damn about you. Start phasing out your 3COM and get on with it. My Patton units were upgraded to v.92 for free... but 96 ports of Patton costs $15K, 96ports of DSPs costs $2K on e-bay. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Infoblvd Support wrote:
Exactly....
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I'M IN!... we aren't exactly a 'small' ISP (over 4000 ports). I also can maybe encourage other ISP's in Ohio (via www.oispa.org). I have heard enough lies and broken promises from 3com over the years. We litterally spent millions with them... and they turned their backs on us with v.92. (Sorry it's NOT afford to upgrade with 4000 ports! It should be free if our hardware is capable and we have bought the kind of volume we have. With other vendors it would have been done for free.. This has been confirmed.)
I am sure our clout as a group with our customers will lead to a downturn in their sales.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. --
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:51 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] Call to Action
I started thinking about what we can do about USR and their satanic hunt for money. Then I said HEY, we have access to the people USR likes - those that buy modems!
So, I am officially starting a campaign to organize small ISP's that will formally recommend to users that they NOT BUY USR MODEMS. Simple enough, we have plenty of options for modems.
I represent a potential base of over 21,000 users that I can recommend equipment for. The way I see it is we ask for certain things for all small ISP's with under 50,000 subscribers (number can change)
o Reasonable cost for software updates to TC chassis o Reasonable cost for CEM/TCM/whatever
If you would like to throw your weight behind this send a private e-mail to me
To: steve@napanet.net Subject: USR Boycott Campaign
Include your name and contact info, company, commitment to refuse endorsement of USR modems to your customer, and number of subscribers.
I think if we work together and show 3com that we are going to take away half a million potential customers we can get USR/3com to change policies.
ACT NOW
Steve
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Humm...you guys better consult your lawyers first. Sounds like you're setting yourselves up for a lawsuit... -- ********************************************************* Michelle M. Mogil, InfoTech Engineer Systems & Operations, Cornell Information Technology 735 Rhodes Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 vox: (607) 255-0516, fax: (607) 255-8521 email: mmm3@cornell.edu **********************************************
I think this is the purpose of complaining to this list - we all know we have been beat down for years with their contracts, licensing and now here are the fixes for code we offered you ... and by the way, you need to invest in CEM (at unreasonable cost and without warning) to make your customers happy and put on code that actually works. That's somewhat underhanded and with the last few years of issues this might just be the straw that will break us. As a group we know we have more say so than our individual size would allow - and we may take advantage of it. I am pretty sure 3com/USR/Commworks will take notice before too long and see that a misstep was made and correct it. This is almost a clear case of a tying arrangement and the law hasn't been too friendly on those ever. We have rights too you know. Marshall Morgan Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) http://www.netdoor.com 601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax 601.969.3838 ----- Original Message ----- From: <mmm3@cornell.edu> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action
Humm...you guys better consult your lawyers first. Sounds like you're setting yourselves up for a lawsuit...
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Hi all, Since everyone is going to be talking about this new, erm... "enhancement" from Commworks for a while, please take a moment to fill out the survey that I put together for Steve (from WRCA) some time back. He had announced it to the list a few months ago, but not too many people filled it out. You'll find the survey link on the following page: http://www.wrca.net/Pages/USRobotics-3Com/index.htm As this discussion turns to "who is a Commworks customer these days and how much bargaining power do we have together", this data could become quite valuable in making a point with Commworks. There are two main areas of data publically available: total port counts and software versions in use. I was hoping this would get populated so we could see what the majority of people are running; it's a common question on this list. The port count is a nice number to point to if Commworks says the ISP base is too small to bother with. Having real numbers would be helpful. Please fill out as much info as possible. This info will not be used for mail/phone/fax spamming. I think most everyone on this list has bought at least one piece of equipment from Steve at some point. :) I'm sure Steve will follow-up on this message tomorrow. Please feel free to contact him (or me) with any questions... Thanks, Charles -- Charles Sprickman spork@inch.com
I had to throw in my 2 cents after considerable thought and time! I didn't renew my service contract this year or purchased more hardware because: 1. With the FCC cap of 53k data transmission I don't see much improvement past v92 for the future. 2. I can buy the same HiPer DSP card today for $1,000 that cost $5k in 1999. Of course, back then, There were over 7,000 ISP's. 3. What's this about the best v92 results seem to come from LT Win modems? I spent years explaining to people why not to buy them! 4. I can't understand why commworks and USR are structured apart from each other. Commworks for commerce and USR for consumer, if I understand it right. My preference is to have the same engineering team serving the consumer of the product that I use. 5. I can't understand why v92 was released to the consumer market a year before it was released to the ISP's! This in my mind almost borders on massive fraud because of the simple question "What good is v92 if their is no place to connect it too"? 6. Frankly, the modem companies should be kissing our asses to use and sell their products! Aren't we the contact point for the consumer market? Don't we influence our subscribers? 7. What is the logic of forcing ISP's pay for code that supports consumer products that we don't profit from the sale of? I would think that they would go all out to have the best performence available for their consumer modem products! 8. All the questions cause me to believe it's not about the quality of the consumer product any longer, but rather how much green is available from whatever souce they can find it. The've got to be laughing all the way to the bank... Wow, we've even got the ISP's paying to support our products! Anyhow, enough of my ramblings, but it sure feels better to get it out! I've already started to support other modem manufacturers that appear to tbe concerned about the quality of service their consumer market maintains. It saddens me that I no longer feel proud, much less comfortable recommending the same modem manufacturer I'm using. It's no longer true that the best connection is one where two modems from the same manufacturer are connecting to each other! Best 'net regards, Joe Config.Com, Inc. * Internet Service Provider (ISP) Joe Rinehart, Network Administration and Operations 228 South Sycamore Street, Ravenna, Ohio 44266-2924 mailto:joe@config.com * http://www.joerinehart.com/ Office: 330.297.9595 * Toll Free: 1.877.OHIO.WEB * Fax: 330.296.4005 Akron/Kent/Mogadore: 330.676.9977 * Aurora/Hiram/Mantua: 330.274.3812 finger:joe@config.com * Home: 330.296.2356 * Cell: 330.671.6882
This is all old news. I got my first USR quadmodem chassis back in 97 and when X2 came out we had the same complaints. v.90 followed a year later and we still had the same complaints. Two/three years after v.90 v.92 is out and we still have the same complaints. Switch out your gear. There are many more agressive RAS vendors out there that will give you what you want (Cyclades, Patton are ones the I use also) and thier forums are never clogged with posts like these. I have less than 1000 ports total so I know Commworks really couldn't care less if I go or stay. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Network Admin wrote:
I had to throw in my 2 cents after considerable thought and time!
I didn't renew my service contract this year or purchased more hardware because:
1. With the FCC cap of 53k data transmission I don't see much improvement past v92 for the future.
2. I can buy the same HiPer DSP card today for $1,000 that cost $5k in 1999. Of course, back then, There were over 7,000 ISP's.
3. What's this about the best v92 results seem to come from LT Win modems? I spent years explaining to people why not to buy them!
4. I can't understand why commworks and USR are structured apart from each other. Commworks for commerce and USR for consumer, if I understand it right. My preference is to have the same engineering team serving the consumer of the product that I use.
5. I can't understand why v92 was released to the consumer market a year before it was released to the ISP's! This in my mind almost borders on massive fraud because of the simple question "What good is v92 if their is no place to connect it too"?
6. Frankly, the modem companies should be kissing our asses to use and sell their products! Aren't we the contact point for the consumer market? Don't we influence our subscribers?
7. What is the logic of forcing ISP's pay for code that supports consumer products that we don't profit from the sale of? I would think that they would go all out to have the best performence available for their consumer modem products!
8. All the questions cause me to believe it's not about the quality of the consumer product any longer, but rather how much green is available from whatever souce they can find it. The've got to be laughing all the way to the bank... Wow, we've even got the ISP's paying to support our products!
Anyhow, enough of my ramblings, but it sure feels better to get it out!
I've already started to support other modem manufacturers that appear to tbe concerned about the quality of service their consumer market maintains. It saddens me that I no longer feel proud, much less comfortable recommending the same modem manufacturer I'm using. It's no longer true that the best connection is one where two modems from the same manufacturer are connecting to each other!
Best 'net regards, Joe
Config.Com, Inc. * Internet Service Provider (ISP) Joe Rinehart, Network Administration and Operations 228 South Sycamore Street, Ravenna, Ohio 44266-2924 mailto:joe@config.com * http://www.joerinehart.com/ Office: 330.297.9595 * Toll Free: 1.877.OHIO.WEB * Fax: 330.296.4005 Akron/Kent/Mogadore: 330.676.9977 * Aurora/Hiram/Mantua: 330.274.3812 finger:joe@config.com * Home: 330.296.2356 * Cell: 330.671.6882
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Thomas Goodman sure is quiet while all this stuff is being said... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST NET -- -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Paul Farber Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:17 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action This is all old news. I got my first USR quadmodem chassis back in 97 and when X2 came out we had the same complaints. v.90 followed a year later and we still had the same complaints. Two/three years after v.90 v.92 is out and we still have the same complaints. Switch out your gear. There are many more agressive RAS vendors out there that will give you what you want (Cyclades, Patton are ones the I use also) and thier forums are never clogged with posts like these. I have less than 1000 ports total so I know Commworks really couldn't care less if I go or stay. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Network Admin wrote:
I had to throw in my 2 cents after considerable thought and time!
I didn't renew my service contract this year or purchased more hardware because:
1. With the FCC cap of 53k data transmission I don't see much improvement past v92 for the future.
2. I can buy the same HiPer DSP card today for $1,000 that cost $5k in
1999. Of course, back then, There were over 7,000 ISP's.
3. What's this about the best v92 results seem to come from LT Win modems? I spent years explaining to people why not to buy them!
4. I can't understand why commworks and USR are structured apart from each other. Commworks for commerce and USR for consumer, if I understand it right. My preference is to have the same engineering team serving the consumer of the product that I use.
5. I can't understand why v92 was released to the consumer market a year before it was released to the ISP's! This in my mind almost borders on massive fraud because of the simple question "What good is v92 if their is no place to connect it too"?
6. Frankly, the modem companies should be kissing our asses to use and
sell their products! Aren't we the contact point for the consumer market? Don't we influence our subscribers?
7. What is the logic of forcing ISP's pay for code that supports consumer products that we don't profit from the sale of? I would think
that they would go all out to have the best performence available for their consumer modem products!
8. All the questions cause me to believe it's not about the quality of
the consumer product any longer, but rather how much green is available from whatever souce they can find it. The've got to be laughing all the way to the bank... Wow, we've even got the ISP's paying to support our products!
Anyhow, enough of my ramblings, but it sure feels better to get it out!
I've already started to support other modem manufacturers that appear to tbe concerned about the quality of service their consumer market maintains. It saddens me that I no longer feel proud, much less comfortable recommending the same modem manufacturer I'm using. It's no longer true that the best connection is one where two modems from the same manufacturer are connecting to each other!
Best 'net regards, Joe
Config.Com, Inc. * Internet Service Provider (ISP) Joe Rinehart, Network Administration and Operations 228 South Sycamore Street, Ravenna, Ohio 44266-2924 mailto:joe@config.com * http://www.joerinehart.com/ Office: 330.297.9595 * Toll Free: 1.877.OHIO.WEB * Fax: 330.296.4005 Akron/Kent/Mogadore: 330.676.9977 * Aurora/Hiram/Mantua: 330.274.3812 finger:joe@config.com * Home: 330.296.2356 * Cell: 330.671.6882
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3Com has a reputation for NOT supporting it's market, and earned it rightly so. Now will be no different, and it will be their undoing in the end. They are NOT going to help us ISPs in any way to increase V.92 in the market place. However, forward thinking companies, like Patton, will become the new USR and the old 3Com/USR will slowly fade. Remember when USR was "THE" name!? Boy 3Com took no time in soiling that. Cheers All, -Tom GiGoNET
Thomas Goodman sure is quiet while all this stuff is being said...
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-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Paul Farber Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:17 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Call to Action
This is all old news. I got my first USR quadmodem chassis back in 97 and when X2 came out we had the same complaints. v.90 followed a year later
and we still had the same complaints. Two/three years after v.90 v.92 is out and we still have the same complaints.
Switch out your gear. There are many more agressive RAS vendors out there that will give you what you want (Cyclades, Patton are ones the I use also) and thier forums are never clogged with posts like these.
I have less than 1000 ports total so I know Commworks really couldn't care less if I go or stay.
-- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Network Admin wrote:
I had to throw in my 2 cents after considerable thought and time!
I didn't renew my service contract this year or purchased more hardware because:
1. With the FCC cap of 53k data transmission I don't see much improvement past v92 for the future.
2. I can buy the same HiPer DSP card today for $1,000 that cost $5k in
1999. Of course, back then, There were over 7,000 ISP's.
3. What's this about the best v92 results seem to come from LT Win modems? I spent years explaining to people why not to buy them!
4. I can't understand why commworks and USR are structured apart from each other. Commworks for commerce and USR for consumer, if I understand it right. My preference is to have the same engineering team serving the consumer of the product that I use.
5. I can't understand why v92 was released to the consumer market a year before it was released to the ISP's! This in my mind almost borders on massive fraud because of the simple question "What good is v92 if their is no place to connect it too"?
6. Frankly, the modem companies should be kissing our asses to use and
sell their products! Aren't we the contact point for the consumer market? Don't we influence our subscribers?
7. What is the logic of forcing ISP's pay for code that supports consumer products that we don't profit from the sale of? I would think
that they would go all out to have the best performence available for their consumer modem products!
8. All the questions cause me to believe it's not about the quality of
the consumer product any longer, but rather how much green is available from whatever souce they can find it. The've got to be laughing all the way to the bank... Wow, we've even got the ISP's paying to support our products!
Anyhow, enough of my ramblings, but it sure feels better to get it out!
I've already started to support other modem manufacturers that appear to tbe concerned about the quality of service their consumer market maintains. It saddens me that I no longer feel proud, much less comfortable recommending the same modem manufacturer I'm using. It's no longer true that the best connection is one where two modems from the same manufacturer are connecting to each other!
Best 'net regards, Joe
Config.Com, Inc. * Internet Service Provider (ISP) Joe Rinehart, Network Administration and Operations 228 South Sycamore Street, Ravenna, Ohio 44266-2924 mailto:joe@config.com * http://www.joerinehart.com/ Office: 330.297.9595 * Toll Free: 1.877.OHIO.WEB * Fax: 330.296.4005 Akron/Kent/Mogadore: 330.676.9977 * Aurora/Hiram/Mantua: 330.274.3812 finger:joe@config.com * Home: 330.296.2356 * Cell: 330.671.6882
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For one to four chassis the cost is one thousand. Above that I think the next step is $4500 but you should contact your rep as these numbers are off the top of my head. Note that I was told this is for simultaneous use, you could get a one to four license and use it one chassis at a time. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dcosby@infowest.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Anyone know the costs of CEM, how it is licensed (by chassis, by card, etc)?
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Yes
"WayneG" <WayneG@uplogon.com>@mailman.xmission.com on 11/14/2002 12:13:27 PM
Please respond to usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com
Sent by: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com
To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> cc: Subject: Re: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
Is CEM required for 4.7?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [USR-TC] TCS 4.7 Released
TCS 4.7 is now available on http://totalservice.commworks.com. This
system release includes the following software code for the TC1000 EDS / RAS
platform::
HiPer DSP T1/PRI 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer DSP E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan T1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/PRI 3.7.4 DSP Multispan E1/R2 3.7.4 HiPer NMC 10.1.5 NMC 333 10.2.5 Common Element Manager 1.1.8.525 HiPer ARC / ARC 5.7.2
New HiPer ARC / ARC features include:
Density enhancement to support 48 T1 / 36 E1 spans via 12 DSP Multispan cards Dynamically configure and assign IP pools from RADIUS PPPoE negotiation over L2TP as per RFC 2516 Modification to L2TP tunnel switching RADIUS attributes PPP Echo Request as per RFC 1661 Microsoft PPTP enhancement Improved "save all" performance Tunnel switching of L2TP dial out
New DSP features include:
Compatibility with SS7 SLAP version 3.0 Improved V.92 support for GSTN cleardowns, retrains and speed shifts PCM Upstream support up to 36000 Support for PIAFs originate mode
New Features for HiPer NMC include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate
New Features for NMC 333 include:
User definable console port Management support for PIAFS originate Telnet access Supernetting Compact Flash file system SNMP V3
New Features for Common Element Manager include:
Find function ARC Backup Added Cost Feature display Enhanced SDL Background MIB table loading Simplified DS1 signaling change-over for DSP cards
Further details / changes are available in the posted System Release Note in PDF format. Please note, no other documentation is available.
Requirements for (CEM) Common Element Manager see System Release Notes
The software matrix and the news update section on-line will be updated shortly to reflect the new system release.
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