We have a total control unit complete for sale 12 months old with all the software and shipping cartons never been over 20 users ( just like driven to church on sundays) If there is any interest out there contact us at info@ddns.com.au Cheers, Rod - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.